Too many personalities in the scene routinely showcase incredible abrasiveness and arrogance which pushes away newcomers and fosters general toxicity and negativity in the community.

I’m thinking about creators such as IWD, LS, Thorin and Monte, people like Forest and Veigarv2 on twitter- they all often do this thing where if they disagree with someone they don’t know, they treat them with absolutely 0 respect, making it clear that not only do they disagree, but that the person is an idiot for thinking/feeling it.

Watching these streamers treat people like dirt over low-stakes disagreements while their chat eggs them on and echoes them is just shit to see and clearly fosters even more toxicity in a community struggling with that already.

And obviously not all creators are like this, Caedrel for example has a much more positive, self-deprecatory vibe and I’m not surprised he has blown up to the level he has.

And I’m not speaking on their analysis here, they are clearly intelligent about the game/industry. They also don’t treat people like this all the time, but it does happen far too often, and I think the community suffers for it.

I don’t expect anything to change, and if any of these creators saw this thread I’m sure they’d much sooner treat me like an idiot before anything else, but I just wanted to get these thoughts out.

  • Derk08B
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    10 months ago

    Can you find any examples of the stuff you’re saying?

    On a general whole, I sorta agree with what you’re saying, but at the same time, I also feel like it’s very often not newcomers that are getting pushed out.

    A lot of these moments I see when people get “disrespected” and “dog piled on” are people that are just very confidently saying/posting factually wrong things. Alternatively, they aren’t pushing against a particular individual, but against a narrative that a lot of us share.

    As a side note, I actually feel like LS and Caedrel are both similar in a way where their audience is no longer just people interested in analysis. They’ve both made their streams analytical but also a lot more memey at the same time, which has improved the mood/vibes of their streams.