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- electricvehicles@gearhead.town
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“Less reliable” to my mind means breakdowns. But the report is actually based on drivers reporting any “issues”?
Anyone have data on how ICE and EVs compare on actual breakdowns?
Anyone have data on how ICE and EVs compare on actual breakdowns?
Electric cars like the 2020 Tesla Model 3 experienced only 4.9 mechanical breakdowns per 1,000 vehicles on the road, while gas-powered cars from the same model year had a failure rate of 6.9 such incidents in a first of its kind EV reliability study that doesn’t rely on subjective owners’ reports. Both are very low numbers as the cars in the comparison are practically new, yet the simpler construction of EVs put them at a 30% lower chance for a significant breakdown even in this favorable scenario.
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ADAC tried to compare apples to apples by picking 3-year old cars as that’s when EVs started to meet their registration quantity criteria for inclusion in the reliability report. As can be expected, electric cars had six times less drivertrain problems than internal combustion engines with their numerous moving parts.
Lol consumer reports
Just like ICE cars , reliability of EV’s will improve over time and updates
Tesla with it’s continuous improvements fixed the initial horror stories about reliability , a lot of taxi drivers are using tesla’s nowadays
Every other brand will continue to improve EV reliability with every update , eventually EVs will become extremely reliable even more than ICE cars
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They really should break it down by which problems are drivetrain issues, vs. build quality, software, etc…
They do that on individual models, but a lot of the overall numbers are just pretty basic averages without any useful statistical analysis behind them.
But all the BEV stand tell me BEVs are more mechanically simple than PHEVS. maybe PHEVs are the solution after all. They give you the greatest gains per kilo of lithium and they have no range anxiety.
Mechanical things like door latches should stay mechanical. There is no real benefit to it being software driven…just like turn signals. Just like a plethora of shit that gives no benefit other than Look at that! It uses electricity ooohh…
I feel like BMW and Mercedes is to blame for this… They are the ones who pioneered vehicles with a plethora of electronic control systems in the name of ‘Luxury’, and it was as if every single manufacturer decided to dive head first… and you can tell that the people driving these changes are absolute idiots that do nothing because customers say they like something but because some trend watch bean counter is claiming this is the new direction…
Case in point, touch controls… they have zero use in a vehicle besides the radio and even then they cant seem to get their heads out of their own asses and leave it up to tried and true methods (apple carplay and android auto) all in the name of… ‘we must be different!’ also called… 'we spent 2 million developing our own shitty/unreliable or both infotainment system and… im not going to be the one who says we need to can that investment on the quarterly investor call…
But now there are cars where almost everything is touch controls… We need to drive fucking cars man!! Not play with it like my smartphone…
more interesting is that hybrids are substantially more reliable not just than EVs, but than gas cars too.
It’s completely against the FUD around hybrids that they’re “too complex” and “have all the issues of EVs and gas cars”.
No shit. Electric is junk! And always will be. Everyone thinking Electric vehicles are new or something. They literally came out before gas/diesel vehicles. Nothing new about them and nothing good about them!
