• Neuromancer@lemm.eeM
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    9 months ago

    The left doesn’t want free speech. They want an echo chamber of ignorant propaganda.

    I dislike Alex Jones as he took it too far, but he shouldn’t have been banned. If you don’t like what Alex says, just block him.

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      9 months ago

      The left doesn’t want free speech.

      You’ve placed the bar so low that this suggests there is nothing an individual person can say or do that would warrant being banned, which is frankly bullshit. Every forum has rules, including this one, as it should. This is critical for maintaining a place of a discussion that is actually useful. I see no reason why “yeah but they’re popular” should give license to skirt the rules.

      Freedom of speech, in the US at least, exists specifically to prevent the state from restricting speech. That’s all it is, and all it needs to be. Banning users from a private website does not contradict this.

      The suggestion that unbanning Alex Jones makes the service less susceptible to ‘ignorant propaganda’ is also laughable.

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        9 months ago

        Do you agree that X can have their own rules, then? As such, Elon can allow Alex a forum if he wants.

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              9 months ago

              You claimed “he shouldn’t have been banned”. Yet by your logic, any service is justified in banning any user for any reason, thus there is no reason that he should not have been banned in the first place.

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                9 months ago

                He shouldn’t have in my opinion. Nothing he posted is any worse than half the other crap that was on twitter. I favor free speech over censorship any day.

                With the block button, you can easily filter out the noise. Twitter allows knowingly false information and even criminal activity on there. Alex did not cross the criminal line which is where I think free speech can be ignored.

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                  9 months ago

                  I favor free speech over censorship any day. Alex did not cross the criminal line which is where I think free speech can be ignored.

                  I refer to my original reply. Your bar is so low that it would turn any forum into garbage.

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      9 months ago

      They want an echo chamber of ignorant propaganda.

      Ironic, considering this sub’s rules on leftist posts.

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          Leftist posts are banned here. That makes this place an echo chamber, at least aside from the comments.

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            We are not a place for leftist post but leftist are allowed to comment. Nothing is deleted because it’s a left point of view.

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              We are not a place for leftist post

              Hence the echo chamber

              Nothing is deleted because it’s a left point of view.

              …unless it is a leftist post.

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                Not sure you understand an echo chamber. Since dissent is allowed. That’s not an echo chamber.

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                    9 months ago

                    Yes if they allowed any post then it wouldn’t be a conservative forum. That doesn’t make it an echo chamber. It’s a theme. If they banned left comments. That would be an echo chamber.