She was right to rip up a picture of the pope.
But I think she was wrong to convert to Islam if her priorities were denial of religious tyranny.
Her issue was all the child rape.
She must not know a lot about Islam then.
Aisha has entered the chat.
Just realizing this now? The church scandals broke wide open 20 years ago.
We were telling dirty jokes about priests and alter boys when I was a kid in the 80s. It was well known and rampant 20 years BEFORE 20 years ago.
Jeff Dunham even did a joke with Achmed the dead terrorist.
“I like to throw a penny between two Jews and watch them fight to the death. I also do the same with Catholic priests but instead I throw a small boy! The winner has to fight Michael Jackson!”
Yeah as a kid in the 70s, it was a known trope. Benny Hill and Monty Python even alluded to it.
Somewhere in Rousseau’s “Confessions” there’s a bunch about him becoming disillusioned by the church as a child because of sexual abuse, and the head priest tells him “that’s how it’s always been”. That was written in 1769!
A new priest has to replace another priest who recently retired. As he’s taking confession, the woman on the other side says she sinned because she performed a blowjob. The priest had no idea of the correct penance for this. Just then a young acolyte passes so he leans out of his chair and asks the boy: “how much do they give around here for a blowjob?” The boy promptly answers: “One snicker bar, sir.”
Yeah, that’s the kinda stuff going around in the 80s.
It had another run in the news following her death last summer.
There’s nothing wrong with people TIL today, because she was right then and still is.
Ripping up an image never makes anyone a bad person, religious figure or not.
Sure, I may prefer the tearing sound that images of Mohammed being ripped apart make… But that’s just subjective personal preference. Doesn’t mean people tearing up an image of the Virgin Mary are bad people. The important thing is neither does anything real to cause harm to anyone at all.
Just a reminder that she didn’t actually explain why she was tearing up a picture of the Pope, she just pulled out a picture of him and tore it up without context. Nobody understood wtf was happening.
Wait, who doubted her?
At the time? Practically everybody. She got absolutely slaughtered in the media, and it went on for years.
Not sure doubt is the right word here, they knew.
It’s the same with Jimmy Saville, everybody knew. I remember chatting on a forum in a thread about celebrities who are absolute assholes. I’m not from the UK, so I didn’t know him before somebody in that thread told us about this lady from his little town who was given a small book store by Saville, alledgedly because he had abused her when she was a girl, and threatened to go public. Granted, Sinnead O’Connor took it to another level. And Joe Pesci showed his true colors. What an asshole.
The whole Jimmy saville thing was insane, he had the keys to mental hospitals. The BBC chauffeured him about, very much like they picked up schoolgirls from school for Russell brand to be brought back to his flat.
Saville was great friends with the royals and thatchers government, you’d think the secret services would have known what he was up to… Thatchers home secretary Leon Britton was accused around the same time a lot of others were found out, but Theresa May’s government shut that down.
Reading this back, I’m thinking I can’t post this it’s sounds nuts. Maybe that’s how these fuckers get away with it…
Hadn’t heard about Pesci, probably playing on his Italian gangster fame, what a twat.
very much like they picked up schoolgirls from school for Russell brand to be brought back to his flat.
Is this what happened with Russell Brand? I just heard he was a sexual predator, not that it was schoolgirls. It’s insane that the BBC didn’t get any wiser after Saville. It should be easy: don’t hire known pervs and definitely don’t let them use your stuff to abuse children.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/russell-brand-sent-car-schoolgirl-30957932
The age of consent is 16 in the UK, Saville was also a necrophiliac, and that access to hospitals was used for that, so maybe the BBC seen this as pretty tame…
Wait, what did Joe Pesci do?
He said he wanted to give her a good smacking or something. And he hasn’t apologized yet as far as I know.
Right, because tearing a picture is worse than the sexual assault of countless children. What a pos
Totally. I always think of this when people say Muslims overreact about drawings of their prophet or people burning their holy book. There were protests in the streets and famous Catholics like Pesci and Madonna attacked O’Connor in the press. Madonna, it seemed, was even more frustrated because this thing completely removed the attention from her new album that came out around the same time.
Edit: Madonna playing the prude was a nice touch.
It’s taken her dying for a lot of people to realise the absolute gem of a person she really was. RIP Sinead. We’ve lost 3 Irish musical gems this year.
For me, outrage at tearing an image implies the subject is beyond reproach and that concept itself is extremely concerning / problematic.
Cool People Who Did Cool Stuft did a really good episode on her. Her story is so much more interesting than you would think.
Thanks for sharing this. I’d never heard of this program. Good counterbalance to Behind the Bastards
Sophie the producer was so tired of hearing about terrible people that she got Magpie to make this show. It is really good. But it is still pretty depressing because the majority of cool people die horribly.
Just some nice numbers here XD
Did it really take you this long to get that?
At the time I judged her harshly, she was crazy but wasn’t wrong about this.
So… You’re still judging her harshly, despite finding out you were wrong (and decades behind everyone else, which takes some intentional avoidance of the topic, and clearly without taking in to consideration the impact people, well, like you, had on her mental health).
Crazy is the wrong word when referring to her mental health issues.
But she did have some crazy takes. Like not mental health related, just crazy/zany/bat shit.
