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    9 months ago

    this is the kind of black and white thinking lemmy does best.

    EDIT: i retract this statement. i was wrong

    i was severely misinformed about what antifacism is. i was under the impression that “the antifa” was a group by itself instead of a mindset.

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      9 months ago

      You’re not pro-fascist, you’re just against people trying to stop the fascists. Thank god for nuance.

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        i hate fascists with a passion, but i might not agree with how antifa acts. i do not have any experience with the group itself, i might even agree with them.

        for example, i do not like how the last generation glued themselves to streets. that doesn’t make me a climate denier, does it?

        EDIT: it seems i misunderstood what antifa is. i always saw it as “the group of violent extremist protesters that throw rocks and light up cars”

        again, i am fully for doing everything i can against fascists. but violent protests don’t contribute, all it does is make your movement the next boogeyman.

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          I’m not pro Hitler, but did they really have to bully the poor man to suicide?

          • @KptnAutismus, probably
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          There is no organization Antifa. It’s an ideology. So if you are against the ideology of anti fascism, what are you for?

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          I’m baffled as to what the point of this comment is, besides waffling about the virtues of not picking sides for not picking sides’ sake.

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            i have picked the side that’s stopping fascists. but the enemy of my enemy isn’t automatically my friend. i do not respect movents who are known for committing arson and battery regularly.

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          Its not “the group”.If you look in left and right wing violence in most countries you’ll see a huge disparity, even after the right wing police has significantly biased the statistics. Most people in Antifa groups just go to demos, organize workshops and put political stickers up.

          Thats alle the stuff Fox wants to villify, because they want people to be fascists.

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          Is a burning car really worse than fucking over the next 15 generations and the planet

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          but violent protests don’t contribute

          There is no alternative to fighting fascists with violence. You can’t have a nice talk with someone who is gunning down Jewish persons. You just shoot them in the face.

          Someone supports fascists who want to genocide a group of people? Burning down their car is less than they deserve.

          I invite you to learn more about the holocaust. The suffering cannot be put into words. There is no means too drastic to prevent something like it to ever happen again.

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            let me rephrase. violence not directed at fascists doesn’t contribute.

            i was referring to innocent people’s property being destroyed.

            if someone arsons a nazi, that’s perfectly reasonable to me.

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          Might not agree with how antifa acts

          I have no experience

          ^^^ this pattern shows up right before you make a poorly thought out comment. If you don’t have experience with something I’d expect your comment to be a question for someone who has.