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Bluesky users will be able to opt into experiences that aren’t run by the company
Yea, no, the biggest server not showing federated content by default is just pseuso-federation - being able to say you have it, while not really doing it.
Seems like a reasonable way to soft-launch federation to me.
Yeah, federation is not gonna get off the ground if the general public (who for the most part don’t know or care) are thrust into it and all it’s confusing quirks.
The best way to make federation work is by users not even having to know or care. Do users even know email is federated? No, they just sign up with a provider and it works. Same with the phone network, sign up somewhere and you can call everyone in the whole world.
I think part of the reason that users don’t get it is that the federation is sometimes explained too much.
Beehaw sets a really good example here because it doesn’t really promote itself as a lemmy instance but as a unique community that just happens to be connected.
A bit disingenious if you promote your protocol as the future of federated socials though.
I really don’t see that. You’ve got 3 million users who are happy using the platform- if it were me I certainly wouldn’t turn on federation for them without asking.
I’d probably have a process that initially
- Make federation opt-in for existing users
- Make federation an opt-in during onboarding of new users
- Start promoting Turing federation on for existing users
- Make federation the default for new users
I try to avoid using apps and services run by tech bro cultist nutters if I can.
Dorsey is as toxic as Elon or any of the other silicon valley douches, he’s not as loud about it.
Dorsey got bullied off bluesky by its userbase so there’s that at least
I forget about Blue Sky until a podcaster I follow mentions they are on there. Still don’t use it.
i honestly like bsky more than threads or mastodon mostly because the ui is far easier to use and more pre elon twitter like. that and the fact that both trans twitter and book twitter moved over and are thriving
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google+bluesky is open now. oh boy. yay.Dollar short and a day late.
just after nitter was killed
Nitter was killed?! Dammit.
There are some instances still up, but I think the assumption is that eventually all of them will shutdown with time. I don’t know the exact reason for it (you can read more here), but something was changed on Twitter’s side that will end all of these.
Bluesky has the most twitter like user base of all the twitter clones that I’ve tried, and it’s up to you if that’s a good or bad thing. It’s not all segments of twitter though, there isn’t really any of right wing twitter or crypto twitter for example (a lot of furries on the other hand) which is quite nice actually. It isn’t really active or important enough to get a lot of the big drama or main character moments and there aren’t really any celebs, journalists and politicians posting there. So it’s a bit like twitter without many of the lows but also many of the highs.
@hedge Will be interesting to see, if there will be other servers, so that it really will be decentralized.
that we’re wondering is telling. by the time they get their shit together the world will have moved on. gives me serious g+ vibes.
Meh. Not for me. Either fully federated or not.
I don’t like the twitter format anyway. Lemmy is way better.
Great, if I ever feel like going to a hellscape full of shills and influencers I’ll bear that in mind.
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Now, the conversation about what comes after the platform-now-called-X has largely shifted to ActivityPub, the decentralized protocol powering Mastodon, a budding ecosystem of other services, and eventually, Meta’s Threads.
In an interview with The Verge, CEO Jay Graber says that the team needed to build out more of its moderation features and get its infrastructure in a stable state before finally moving out of closed beta.
She says the app has seen over 3 million sign-ups since it launched a year ago and that there have been “a lot more downloads.” The hope is that some of those people will convert into active users now that they don’t need an invite to join, and that Bluesky can play a role as a conversation platform for a more general audience.
Graber says the Bluesky app has 1.6 million monthly users and 25,000 custom feeds — a unique feature of the AT Protocol powering it — for people to choose from.
While the AT Protocol is being opened up soon, the Bluesky company plans to make money via a variety of ways, including charging users for additional features in its app.
Companies like Meta “are making moves that were unthinkable a few years ago” by embracing decentralization, and even though ActivityPub has captured the zeitgeist now, Bluesky thinks there’s still room for another take on what is increasingly looking like the next phase of social networking.
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