My kids do. They were younger than 4 years old when I explained it to them and they didn’t have any trouble understanding. Kind of makes me wonder why so many adults have so much trouble.
My seven year old explained it to me the other day. Snapped at him half paying attention, thinking he was calling something gay disparagingly. Asked what that word meant to him and he said “when two of the same gender people love each other. Like two boys or two girls.”
“How do you know that??”
“Ms. --social worker at school name-- told me about it”
“Oh… well. Great. Carry on then. Oh! Wait! You know you can love whoever you love right? And Daddy will always love you?”
“Yeah of course, can you be quiet so I can watch my show please”
This morning I noticed a black trans lives matter sign on a hallway wall and felt really proud of our school. Fwiw it’s one of the lowest income and most diverse schools in our affluent city, debunking “Poors and POC are inherently bigots” bullshit from the academic left.
The academic left? Friend, your kid is well adjusted. More so than you (which is the goal, so good on you)
The academic left doesn’t exist. I don’t even know what that means, but it’s not a real group. It sounds like it came from fox “news”
You’re trying. Your kid has been raised to not see the issues we (myself included) get tangled up on. We have to get past the bigotry subtly hammered into us growing up… If you’re not pushing our baggage onto the next generation, you’re doing great as far as social issues go
No leftist wants anything except for you to be paid more fairly and for your kid’s school to be better funded. Doubly so if we’re educated enough to recognize systematic issues.
You’re on the right side of history… But whatever news programs you’ve been watching, please stop. They’re owned by billionaires actively trying to sow division for their own benefit
More so than me? You’ve got me really open to hearing you out the gate with the ad hominen. Cool. You missed the part where I’m the one raising him to be this person. But kids are no reflection on those who raise them I suppose.
“The academic left” are out of touch progressives that speak like everything is academic and about philosophical principle, while alienating the actual minority groups they claim to speak for. (E
G. I got on board with LatinX and every single Latino/Hispanic friend “outside the movement” fucking hates it.)
You don’t know me. You don’t know that I’ve alienated myself and lost friendships over participating in being the elitist sociology major in the office.
You don’t know I’ve been an activist for almost 30 years. In real life. With a bullhorn in my real hand. Talking to real people. Not on the Internet. Save the lecture for someone who needs it please. This is the problem with self proclaimed leftists. You always fuck with your comrades and push them away, while bitching that average Dems should be spending time persuading Trumpers to switch sides instead of working together on practical solutions to stopping fascism and solidifying democracy so we can actually work on things like universal healthcare, minimum living wage, ending citizens united, repairing the supreme court, reminding cops they’re the 99% and breaking up the gestapo, stopping mortgage derivatives from coming back worse than '09, regulation off big business, anti trust, codifying Roe etc etc etc etc bc Genocide Joe.
Edit: actually, you suck. I tried to hold back that and put down my anger over that first comment. But I just reread my original upvoted by the community comment… and you suck. I’m out here talking about supporting trans kids of color and teaching it to five year olds in public school, and debunking stereotypes about bigotry and bias in minority communities. You picked me of all people on this site to lecture with that shit? I’m sorry man, you kinda suck. A lot.
I’m sorry you took that so personally…I don’t think you heard what I was trying to say.
What I’m saying is you’re projecting goals and opinions on a group of very different people based on traits they loosely have in common.
You can criticize academia all you like, but what you did isn’t that.
You’re framing “them” as an enemy declaring “poors and POC are inherently bigots”. That group doesn’t exist.
Are there elitist assholes and people with a savior complex? Sure. I’m sure plenty of people have said similar statements, there’s a lot of really dumb individuals
But anyone who makes the statement you accused “them” of making would be torn apart both in academia and from any even slightly progressive group (not only is it not a true statement, it’s extremely bigoted)
What is true is that bigotry is more common in lower socio-economic regions for inherent reasons - but that’s reasons inherent to the group, such as less opportunities for travel, higher education, or relocation. There’s plenty of sociology studies that explore that with nuance and statistics to back it up.
Somehow, you’ve reframed that (or more likely had it presented to you) as a group of “them” with goals that are in opposition to you. As an accusation against you and your community.
The group you speak of doesn’t exist, someone made it the fuck up. It’s a harmful idea that you’ve internalized.
My kids do. They were younger than 4 years old when I explained it to them and they didn’t have any trouble understanding. Kind of makes me wonder why so many adults have so much trouble.
My seven year old explained it to me the other day. Snapped at him half paying attention, thinking he was calling something gay disparagingly. Asked what that word meant to him and he said “when two of the same gender people love each other. Like two boys or two girls.” “How do you know that??” “Ms. --social worker at school name-- told me about it” “Oh… well. Great. Carry on then. Oh! Wait! You know you can love whoever you love right? And Daddy will always love you?” “Yeah of course, can you be quiet so I can watch my show please”
This morning I noticed a black trans lives matter sign on a hallway wall and felt really proud of our school. Fwiw it’s one of the lowest income and most diverse schools in our affluent city, debunking “Poors and POC are inherently bigots” bullshit from the academic left.
The academic left? Friend, your kid is well adjusted. More so than you (which is the goal, so good on you)
The academic left doesn’t exist. I don’t even know what that means, but it’s not a real group. It sounds like it came from fox “news”
You’re trying. Your kid has been raised to not see the issues we (myself included) get tangled up on. We have to get past the bigotry subtly hammered into us growing up… If you’re not pushing our baggage onto the next generation, you’re doing great as far as social issues go
No leftist wants anything except for you to be paid more fairly and for your kid’s school to be better funded. Doubly so if we’re educated enough to recognize systematic issues.
You’re on the right side of history… But whatever news programs you’ve been watching, please stop. They’re owned by billionaires actively trying to sow division for their own benefit
More so than me? You’ve got me really open to hearing you out the gate with the ad hominen. Cool. You missed the part where I’m the one raising him to be this person. But kids are no reflection on those who raise them I suppose.
“The academic left” are out of touch progressives that speak like everything is academic and about philosophical principle, while alienating the actual minority groups they claim to speak for. (E G. I got on board with LatinX and every single Latino/Hispanic friend “outside the movement” fucking hates it.)
You don’t know me. You don’t know that I’ve alienated myself and lost friendships over participating in being the elitist sociology major in the office.
You don’t know I’ve been an activist for almost 30 years. In real life. With a bullhorn in my real hand. Talking to real people. Not on the Internet. Save the lecture for someone who needs it please. This is the problem with self proclaimed leftists. You always fuck with your comrades and push them away, while bitching that average Dems should be spending time persuading Trumpers to switch sides instead of working together on practical solutions to stopping fascism and solidifying democracy so we can actually work on things like universal healthcare, minimum living wage, ending citizens united, repairing the supreme court, reminding cops they’re the 99% and breaking up the gestapo, stopping mortgage derivatives from coming back worse than '09, regulation off big business, anti trust, codifying Roe etc etc etc etc bc Genocide Joe.
Edit: actually, you suck. I tried to hold back that and put down my anger over that first comment. But I just reread my original upvoted by the community comment… and you suck. I’m out here talking about supporting trans kids of color and teaching it to five year olds in public school, and debunking stereotypes about bigotry and bias in minority communities. You picked me of all people on this site to lecture with that shit? I’m sorry man, you kinda suck. A lot.
I’m sorry you took that so personally…I don’t think you heard what I was trying to say.
What I’m saying is you’re projecting goals and opinions on a group of very different people based on traits they loosely have in common.
You can criticize academia all you like, but what you did isn’t that.
You’re framing “them” as an enemy declaring “poors and POC are inherently bigots”. That group doesn’t exist.
Are there elitist assholes and people with a savior complex? Sure. I’m sure plenty of people have said similar statements, there’s a lot of really dumb individuals
But anyone who makes the statement you accused “them” of making would be torn apart both in academia and from any even slightly progressive group (not only is it not a true statement, it’s extremely bigoted)
What is true is that bigotry is more common in lower socio-economic regions for inherent reasons - but that’s reasons inherent to the group, such as less opportunities for travel, higher education, or relocation. There’s plenty of sociology studies that explore that with nuance and statistics to back it up.
Somehow, you’ve reframed that (or more likely had it presented to you) as a group of “them” with goals that are in opposition to you. As an accusation against you and your community.
The group you speak of doesn’t exist, someone made it the fuck up. It’s a harmful idea that you’ve internalized.
Your comment veered right off a cliff with the last sentence there. Where did you get that jumble of words?