• HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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    5 months ago

    If this was the deal after Russia annexed the Crimean Peninsula, I could see it being ok. However, this is the second invasion in a decade.

    What keeps Russia from invading a decade later?

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      5 months ago

      Taking everything you say at face value, the options for Ukraine are:

      1. Take a deal that maybe you can’t trust, but it at least gives you time to breathe.
      2. Keep fighting, and with the war going how it is eventually lose more than what you’ve already lost.
      3. Attempt to draw other states into the conflict so that you have a shot at what might be considered a victory, likely years more down the road under the best of circumstances.

      There is no justification for 2, and 3 is highly unlikely – if other states haven’t entered the war already, they’re not going to do so now.

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      5 months ago

      They will.

      Russia is running on fumes and Ukraine is continuing to bolster up. Russia needs time to reup

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            5 months ago

            Pick one: Russia is running on fumes, or Russia should have won a year ago.

            The coherent opinion here is that it’s a slow, grinding war and the side that has lost more and more territory as it continued will continue to do so.

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              5 months ago

              Well, that is currently changing as Ukraine is now able to target military targets inside Russia, disabling their supply lines. Ukraine has been restricted to use the supplied weapons systems they got. They should be able to use the full force of these weapons and drive the Russians out. NATO is being way too restrictive with an invading county bordering on our territory. Russia has shown they are not to be trusted. We should supply Ukraine with a few tactical nukes, for defense, and see what happens when the kid that’s been bullied suddenly also has the same big guns.

      • Black_Mald_Futures [any]@hexbear.net
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        5 months ago

        You stupid motherfuckers have been saying this shit since the war began without even the slightest bit of realization that Russia is an actual industrialized, manufacturing power, while the west has shipped almost all of its actual production to China and SEA

        Ukraine is literally constantly running out of shit despite the entirety of NATO dumping military supplies on them and they’re the ones conscripting 40+ year old men but lol “Russia is running on fumes”

        “Why hasn’t Russia won yet” because they’re winning, stupid, they are winning a war of attrition, the fact that they’re winning doesn’t mean they can just magically teleport troops into Kiev and declare Game Over. This isn’t some fucking paradox game, moron. The winning move is to keep grinding Ukraine into dust, not whatever dumbass shit you think Russia needs to be doing to win the war.

        I can’t stress enough how fucking stupid you are if you think Ukraine’s current conscription reality is in any way indicative of them “bolstering up”