I might not be understanding something about the fediverse, but isn’t this like if you couldn’t send or receive email from a friend because you use gmail Google decided to block @icloud domains?

Like, you’re not forced to follow or interact with it, and are free to block it if you can think of a reason to, I just don’t see why such an open platform used to limit users in this way

  • TheOneCurly@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    5 months ago

    The concept as I understand it is that Threads has the sheer volume of content to completely drown out the existing Fedi content if it fully opens the floodgates. If that occurs and say 90% of content becomes Threads and then they start making Threads only extensions to Activity Pub, servers will have to start patching those in and the Activity Pub project is defacto owned by Meta.

    People also have issues with the Meta content moderation and the population on Threads, but as you noted that’s fixable on an individual and community level. The existential threat to the future of the Fediverse is why servers should defederate. Meta can’t and shouldn’t be trusted with any amount of power over this community project.

      • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
        02·
        5 months ago

        Lemmy World is doing a pretty good job of that themselves. I don’t hate them, but I don’t understand why.

        • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
          2·
          5 months ago

          No, they aren’t. They aren’t by any means.

          Maybe there are more posts from that instance, but there is no one trying to then extend the protocol with the objective of requesting special features and then killing off the protocol.

          • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
            01·
            5 months ago

            They haven’t gone that far yet, but they’re on their way. I didn’t think they were like that in the beginning either, but they certainly were advertising themselves to be the best place to go in the beginning for some unknown reason. They now try and take over every community and/or shut down smaller ones. An admin was curating things, which isn’t a great sign. Granted, it was just an admin, but I’m not welcome there anymore. They act like reddit, so I think of them like reddit. That’s just my take, you’re totally welcome to disagree, and you obviously do. I didn’t see the value in spreading out in the fediverse, now I do.

  • Gabadabs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    41·
    5 months ago

    I went to fedi to avoid big corporations and what they’ve done with social media. Why would I want their platform having access to my posts? I don’t trust meta or any of the other big tech companies. In fact, the main mastodon instance I use blocks threads entirely and that’s one of the reasons I joined it.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    2·
    5 months ago

    I don’t want to interact with anything related to that company. There’s a reason I don’t have accounts on any of their platforms. I don’t like them.

  • Seeders@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    1·
    1 month ago

    I can’t stand what the internet is turning in to. Turn off moderation like it used to be. It used to be the wild west, now it’s a dystopian hellscape. I prefer the wild west myself.

  • ryathal@sh.itjust.works
    0·
    5 months ago

    There’s a lot of reactionary anti-corpo types here. There’s really no good reason for users to want to defederate from a Facebook owned instance. It’s also a pointless stance, as threads is a Twitter/mastodon style site and not really compatible with reddit/lemmy style sites.

    There are some technical reasons to avoid federating for those hosting instances. The software forces local copies of everything users subscribe to which is a massive space concern. There’s also a problem with performance of syncing that data for large instances that’s already a problem with .world size instances, where it can take a day+ to process new comments.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      1·
      5 months ago

      There’s really no good reason for users to want to defederate from a Facebook owned instance.

      Yeah why would anyone object to a company that manipulated people for the fascist who tried to overthrow the US government, and recently hired a co-author of Project 2025? ‘You just don’t like it!’

  • Arcane2077@sh.itjust.worksOP
    16·
    5 months ago

    Well, this was extremely disappointing. Only one person had a helpful reply, pointing to this link explaining the basics, a couple others vaguely gestured about their distaste of Meta, and everyone else demonstrated an even lesser understanding of the fediverse than I had started with. One particular flat-earther just called me a slag and posted a screenshot of themselves downvoting all my comments.