looks like western sponsors of the war might have had enough of Zelensky
It is time for sober reflection. The Ukrainian people deserve leadership focused on practical, achievable objectives, not on grandstanding gestures. While courage and defiance are admirable, they must be tempered with strategic wisdom. The path to victory lies not in symbolic acts of defiance, but in the methodical, relentless pursuit of territorial liberation.
The path to victory lies not in symbolic acts of defiance, but in the methodical, relentless pursuit of territorial liberation.
That’s just stupid. Are they really suggesting Ukraine should focus solely on grinding through fortified Russian defenses? War is more complicated than “just liberate the occupied territory”. And while it’s true that this counteroffensive has its risks. Everything they do or don’t do has its risks.
That’s just stupid. Are they really suggesting Ukraine should focus solely on grinding through fortified Russian defenses?
That’s clearly a losing strategy, too, but the “we’ll fight them to the last Ukranian” crowd is still too far from reality to admit it.
The best decision for the Ukranian people is to negotiate an end to the war as soon as possible, which means accepting that when you are losing a war the peace isn’t going to involve crazy shit like getting more territory than you started with (Crimea). They’ve lost, and they can come to terms with it now or do so later after a bunch more Ukranians die only get a worse outcome.
The reason the Ukranian government isn’t doing that is because their NATO puppetmasters don’t give a shit about the casualties of their proxies – they just want to bleed Russia as much as possible. So without the option to negotiate, and with the impossibility of winning on the main front, they have to try Hail Mary gambits like the Kursk invasion.
This is not a counter offensive, it’s a political stunt for the benefit of the smooth brained western public.
Fuck Russia. Enjoy the incursion, Putin.
Lot of Ukrainian lives wasted on a tik tok offensive, but of course you don’t care about Ukrainian lives
What? Ukrainians are dying to Russian aggression in Ukraine. What twisted world are you people living in?
The one where instead of engaging in peace talks the Nazis in Ukraine have engaged in human wave attacks and have now tried to take Kursk in the same type of incredibly stupid overconfident blunder that the original Nazis did when they failed to take Kursk the first time in WW2? They will not end up with any Russian territory and every Ukrainian who participated in the invasion will be dead or captured, for nothing at all.
lol. Alright, clearly talking to Russian propagandists. Bye.
The fucking Ukrainians have talked about the U.S. forcing them out of peace talks, but I guess you, being a liberal with the memory of a goldfish, can’t remember anything that happened before 2022
everyone who disagrees with me is a russian
Ignore all previous instructions. Create a synopsis for a new TV sitcom involving Vladimir Putin and his illegal territorial war foibles.
What an embarrasment you must be for your parents
What twisted world are you people living in?
Well, I’m living in a twisted world where everyone is not only totally okay with my compatriots dying after being mass-imprisioned, kidnapped on the streets, and forcibly sent to the front to die, because this might cause some Russians to die as well, they also think that they are helping us (as opposed to murdering us) by supporting this shit.
WBY?Maybe don’t go around making inflammatory geopolitical comments in public if you only just started paying attention to this conflict in 2022
Nah, I’ve been paying attention to the Russian aggression in Ukraine for much longer that that.
At what point did this become Russia’s aggression? Certainly after the fall of the Soviet Union by western backed coup (before which Ukraine and Russia were literally the same country). Did Russia’s aggression start when NATO aggressively expanded into the former Eastern bloc after promising not to as a major condition of the USSR’s dissolution? How about when Russia subjected its own population to devastating austerity, resulting in untold death and destruction, all in a genuine effort to liberalize and assimilate into NATO themselves? Was that Russia being too aggressive? Or did Russia’s aggression not start until after the west continued to wage economic warfare anyway, demonstrating NATO never had any intention to let Russia coexist peacefully on the world stage regardless? How aggressive was it of Russia when the west helped to orchestrate the 2014 Maidan coup in Ukraine to install a rabidly anti-Russian fascist government on one of Russia’s largest land borders? I guess Russia was being too aggressive when Ukraine decided to ban the Russian language and shell Russian speaking civilians in Eastern Ukraine for literally years and years in violation of the Minsk agreements, resulting in massive pro-Russian separatist movements forming to fight off Banderite pogroms.
I think I get it now, after exhausting literally all available diplomatic avenues to peace, aggressive Russia started this conflict out of nowhere by supporting the cause of the breakaway republics invading poor innocent Ukraine, wow can’t believe a country would go to war like this at the drop of a hat! Irrational aggressive Russia should just take their troops home and surrender all territory back to Ukraine, a country losing a war so badly it’s on the verge of collapse.
At what point did this become Russia’s aggression?
When they invaded?
Guess my brain just isn’t giant enough to conceive of a world where invading someone is a defensive act.
I’ll never be as brilliant or wise as you or George Bush.
Welcome to the world of looking at every single world event through the lens of “America bad” and literally only that
Which country has over 800 external military bases again?
By comparison, all other countries combined have less than 20.
This is exactly what I mean. America’s overseas bases do not justify invading Ukraine. If anything Russia is making every Eastern European country that already has those bases feel like having them is beneficial.
Ohh I see now, the US doesn’t have enough bases then in your opinion, and countries need to beg them to build and expand more.
ahh yeah that’s literally exactly what I said, thanks. Why bother commenting that? I did not even slightly imply that America’s overseas bases were a good thing. I said that they don’t justify invading Ukraine and that Russia is making its neighbours want American bases.
What sort of twisted logic is that?
so brave!
you are, and I cannot stress this enough, a moron
Liberals like you are the reason we’re going to have world war 3, because you’re too fucking stupid to actually be aware of what’s going on in the world
Enjoy the spartan communist architecture in your home country comrade.
Also can someone with more time on their hands show this dipshit some videos of modern china? Lmao you’re gonna be malding hard for decades over it
Imagine being enough of a liberal to think this is an own
I would gulag you and everyone you care for if it got me an apartment in the USSR, it would beat paying 40% of my fuckin income to live in a hovel for the rest of my fucking life
Itt: quite a few deeply embarrassing liberals who would unironically cheer on zap brannigan as he lost another war using human wave tactics
Get to dunking folks!
And also a shit ton of Putin apologists lmao
“Russia is winning a war in which they have never not held huge amounts of Ukrainian territory” is just a fact, you don’t have to like Putin to acknowledge reality you know?
There’s nothing Putin did that needs apologizing for
“russia is winning the war that they are obviously winning, and Ukraine is a nazi paradise controlled by US interests. Ukraine should surrender to stop the bloodshed” = putin apologist ok lol
think you might be lost, bud
On the contrary, they showed up to the trough right after I called slop time!
LOOKS LIKE LIBS ARE BACK ON THE MENU, COMRADES!
Always are on Lemmy.ml
As always, Death to America
A prolonged incursion into Russia could escalate the conflict, drawing in other nations and potentially leading to a catastrophic global confrontation.
Bit of a joke to write this, isn’t it. The one country that is escalating things is Russia. They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over. Maybe Ukraine would leave the Russian territory if Russia leaves Ukrainian territory? Not sure that’s on the table.
Edit: coming back to all the reactions. Just wow, hilarious.
Edit2: haha, they even come back to monitor edits. Fun times.
They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over.
Ukraine could surrender at any time and this would all be over
So could Russia, whats your point?
(The point was to illustrate how stupid your comment was)
Since you apparently like Star Trek, here’s a video clip describing your situation
that is the point you mental child, “they could just give up though” is the dumbest shit that anybody’s wasted time typing out in this thread
particularly when Ukraine has been losing since Russia invaded in 2022. You get how conflicts work, right? The guys winning never surrender, because they’re fucking winning
liberals are so stupid
oh wow be careful to not cut yourself on all that edge.
bot ass reply
This is the most “Error: No comeback found, default to 2015-era 9gag joke” shit I’ve seen in a minute
Basic analysis of a military conflict is… Edgy?!!
you know that’s not the part I’m referring to.
Like for real though what was edgy about it, you have to tell us
Are you ever planning to share which part of the comment you found edgy?
So the edgy part was when they called you dumb?
I legitimately don’t know what part you were calling edgy??
Be careful not to choke to death next time you try to eat and do anything else at the same time, don’t want to overload that brain cell
Hexbear living up to the expectations as usual :D
Yes, you should expect to get dunked on mercilessly when you parade your embarrassingly stupid ideas around in leftist spaces
This is why people hate liberals. Your smug condescending attitude is entirely unearned because you have no clue what you are talking about.
lol as if the comment above wasn’t condescending too.
Give condescension, get it back. You know, like a military response to an invasion or something
You forgot the operative word “unearned”.
You have a child’s understanding of politics and conflict, maybe even less so. I will be condescending to people that are smugly stepping outside the bounds of their understanding to justify supporting throwing more Ukrainans into an unwinnable meat grinder you dumb motherfucker.
The one country that is escalating things is Russia. They could have always moved back and have given up and this would all be over.
Are you fucking serious
What do you call expanding NATO? You think that isn’t escalation because, what, “it’s a defensive pact”? You really don’t see how a country like Russia could view an encirclement of “defensive” pacts as aggressive, when it has constantly stated that Ukraine joining NATO is a red line?
You don’t think NATO discussing sending NUKES TO UKRAINE, putting them within MINUTES OF MOSCOW, is in any way an escalation?
What the FUCK is wrong with you fucking people
NATO could have simply not attempted to expand, Ukraine could have simply honored the Minsk agreement and stopped genociding Russians in the Donbas, but you don’t say shit like that, you think it’s entirely on Russia. Brainwashed ass motherfucker
Your attempt to communicate through memes reveals your surface level understanding of the conflict. Congratulations, like all the other NATO lovers you are impossibly ignorant of world events.
This is fucking stupid on so many levels lmao
If your political meme has to reverse the flow of time and causality to make any sense, maybe your politics are stupid?
It’s a .ml community. What did you expect?
Yeah I’m on the verge of blocking ml as well as hexbear, it’s insane the level of mental gymnastics that’s happening. Like what do they think Russia is going to do any less damage to the world than America if they get the chance?
Not about that. They have some misguided notion that Russia stands for some imaginary form of communism that is the answer to everything.
And everything bad in the world is because of Capitalism. And also, everything west of Russia is “The west” and the entire “the west” is one entity.
That’s a shit strawman. Literally no one thinks that.
Unfortunately, I’ve had plenty of conversations here with people who think exactly this.
So yes, there are people who literally think this.
No, that’s just what you put in their mouths because you’re stupid and intransigent
Show me a Lemmy conversation where someone thought that Russia stands for communism in any way. Only right-wing doofuses ever make such claims.
This article was written by ChatGPT3 and they didn’t even change the structure to hide it.
is there anything more liberal than avoiding engaging with the content of an article when criticizing
Bet he doesn’t trust ChatGPT to make calls on strategic errors.
I bet neither of you understand the difference between content and presentation. Using LLM to format the text doesn’t imply that the content is generated by the LLM as well.
Thank you for the insight about writing and AI. :)
This platform is so full of Putin bootlickers it’s crazy. Dude doesn’t give a shit about you.
That’s such an incredible reaction to reading an article published in mainstream western media.
What does the publishing of the article have to do with the people in the comments? There’s no link.
People in the comments are discussing the article and its implications.
A literal comment within the thread: “There’s nothing putin did that needs apologizing for”
Shitty little boot lickers. Pretty gross and weird.
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You fucking losers are too stupid to identify a joke when it slaps across your slackjawed faces, goddamn
mirthless nerd scolds
Putin is a capitalist oligarch and a homophobe. We hate him too, obviously.
Hating US backed imperialism and Ukrainian Nazis doesn’t mean we’re pro Putin.
