Perfectenschlag alle zusammen verdammt nochmal!
Now that I have your attention, welcome to the (almost) annual fireside chat about rules, the state of the sub as well as your feedback and what can/should be improved.
Six years ago, fellow German DerFechtTrainer opened his Pirateside Chat with “we are over 8,000 subscribers and growing…” Well, he ain’t wrong, we grew some 112,000 users strong but I still love every single one of you bastards (excuse my Welsh) like I did when we were a small and cozy little sub where everyone knew each other at least by nickname. I’m glad some of those names are still around and kicking. For all of you younglings, that is the reason why some of the low effort me mes or endless self post rambles are allowed and some are not. Because these people have earned the right to behave like stubborn five year olds high on Dr Pepper and bathing salt, mostly because they have been behaving like this forever and never changed. And I love you for that!
Some things have changed and I dearly miss Lansdownestreet and Factcheckonthefly. If you don’t know who that was, check the sidebar.
I still believe we will win the Superbowl this year but it seems like most of you have lost faith and that’s OK. I will gladly accept your apologies during the parade.
What’s not OK, is the amount of self posts after the games which bring nothing new to the table but are just reddit’s equivalent of old men yelling at clouds. We understand that you, like all of us, are disappointed and full of grief and anger. But for the love of Vea use one of the regular weekly posts for that. Going on there will be two rule changes concerning self posts:
Self Posts
A) There will be no self posts allowed for 24 hours after our game. Calm down, create a funny me me or use the post-game thread for voicing your complaints. Take the dog for a walk, ride your skateboard again or call your mom. It‘s Sunday and you haven‘t checked in on her for a while.
B) After that cooling period, please try to put more effort into these posts. This is not a Todd Bowles game plan so please use more than three brain cells and five minutes. Before you write, think about this:
- If it could be a comment in an already existing post. It doesn‘t need a new thread.
- If it‘s a discussion type of post, state and explain your own opinion and not just state „We should conjure Chris Conte from the shadow world and resign him. What do you think?“
- If it‘s just a rant, go get a pubsub instead. They sure are tasty. Or validate your thoughts. Or use one of the weekly thingies. Or have been ranting in this sub for more than seven years.
Mock Drafts
I know, I know you have created (found!) this perfect little mock draft and can’t wait to post it. IT IS EARLY NOVEMBER GODDAMMIT, let’s delay mockdraft season a little bit. I know some of you put a ton of effort and research into those things but it’s just not the time. Rule of thumb if you haven’t put up your Christmas decoration, don’t post your mock draft. There will be weekly mock draft Wednesdays (or was it Mondays?) come December. Also, remember no auto generated mock drafts unless you give some information about the picks. We will draft last, so just go Kicker or obscure lineman from a College no one has ever heard about.
Your input
What other rule changes or other changes would you like to see on the sub? Personally, I would love to have the great me mes of the Fitzmagic time return but have to confess that I don’t have even close to the time to do that myself again.
What should/could be improved? What would you like to see more?
Feuert die Kanonen und los geht’s Bukanier!
My thoughts… this sub is way too overmodded these days.
Like waaay to many posts are removed for no reason.
While this place has grown, it still is a relatively small place. At most you’d see like…what, 5 posts a day?
I remember the days of the pre-winston era when you could easily post a gif of Denzel Washington drinking and post “Yup, it’s a Bucs life, alright…” and it would get lots of upvotes, not removed, and people just using the thread to say “Yup, this is me right now” and all would find solace in our mutual misery.
I don’t get why 99% of the posts are removed. Like…there’s no reason for removing majority of the posts that are removed. This is how subreddits die. I keep seeing posts on other team’s subreddits that would get removed here.
And idk, like I posted some random meme that I found which was not removed …but when I post a photo of statistics it would get removed. When arguably, i’d understand why just a random meme that’s not as creative would get removed, but the stats encouraged.
Someone will post a thread about potential threads…and it would get removed, and like…why? We should talk about random stuff. I’d say make a month without removing threads during the week and ask people if they felt the sub was more alive or if it was filled with bullshit.
I guarantee it would feel more alive and we’d get more discussion even.
I get that some topics are way too over-talked but at this point…nah, we haven’t reached that point. I don’t mind getting 3 posts in 10 days that say “Baker sucks!!11!!11”, they’d be downvoted (or upvoted) people will comment, and that’s it. It feels like an official Buccaneers place where only approved topics can be talked sometimes. I miss the “shitposting” and when you can log in and see 3 memes, 2 videos and 4 selfposts every day. Now the only posts you can see during the week is “Official NFL preview”, “Injury list”, “bot posted daily thread” and…that’s it. it feels rather…soulless so to speak.
Now for your points:
I think 24 is just too much. Removing every post about the last game up until 24 hours after the game is fine. BUT, I feel that you should maybe make it to be…idk, 12 hours, and then for the next 12 hours make them “have to be approved by a mod”, cause not every self-post will be “rant and thoughts about the last game”
Sometimes someone can make a self thread about our opponents, strength of schedule, playoff scenarios, or later in the season potential draft prospects or whatever. Not every self post up till 24 hours of the game will be about the last game, so some should be alright to be posted.
This is all great and all, but sometimes just posting in the post-game thread doesn’t do it, as I feel that not enough people browse the thread and a discussion may not start from just posting in the post-game thread. And I guess this is why some self posts DURING the week are removed. “Oh you posted something? Sorry, just use the daily thread”, but no one checks the daily thread for analysis, thoughts and what not, while with an actual thread people will want to comment and talk about the topic. I think the daily threads should be just general, and for serious dicussions we should post threads.
Lol is this happening already? it’s waaay to early
Idk, iI know this is a long message but it is not written in negative or angry tone! :)
I like what you’re doing!
…i wish i knew more German despite me learning it for few years so I could’ve responded in Deutsch :/
So we do have filters currently in place that we’ve had for years that auto removed posts with less than 250 words and it holds them for review, this helped a ton with removing a lot of the “Baker sucks that is all” type posts. If that wasn’t there we’d certainly be at that point you mentioned already, there’s a ton of low effort stuff that just never makes it onto the sub in the first place because of that.
The reason we’ve brought up the self post ban is just because we’ve seen a spike in rant posts that while the feelings of the person posting are perfectly valid, they don’t add anything new to the conversation. It’s just word vomit of what is going through their head and while it crosses the word count threshold we personally felt it doesn’t really add anything new to the conversation and fits better in the game discussion posts. A rant post on it’s own with no new ideas in it just feels Karma grubby and attention seeking in my opinion. I get that people feel like their stuff isn’t seen in the game thread sometimes because there’s usually hundreds of comments in there but doing it as a self post has a “my opinion matters more than everyone in the post game thread” vibe to me.
The 24 hour ban is also an idea we stole from the Browns sub who often feel the same level of misery as a sub as we do. The way this season has been going I’d be inclined to test out the 24 hour ban to start but open to shortening to 12 down the road.
If you go to the Saints sub after a game it’s an absolute mess most of the time because they don’t remove most of the self posts and a lot of really low effort stuff gets through.
Anyhow I appreciate you voicing your opinion though, we as a mod team are most often just trying to do what we collectively think is best for the health of the sub, and all of the active mods were simply just users here at one point and only became mods because we care about this community a ton, but we know everyone has different views and we’re not going to ever have a system that will please everyone.
Appreciate the long feedback, like spiderlex said, there’s tons of stuff held back by different automod settings, so not everything hits the sub.
I’m not against the idea to have the flood doors open for a certain period, calling it a week without Germans to see what it brings.
It’s always a fine line of what stays up and what doesn’t, as we usually put some thought into what gets removed and what does not but where all humans and hence have better or worse days but usually there’s some sort of discussion behind the scenes if a post is on the edge.
From a mod perspective, we thought we’d be rather on the too loose side of things and not overmodded but that’s why we have this conversation.
I thing thinks will slow down a bit after this game for good or worse because either we win and everyone is happy or we loose and lots of people will lose interest. But that’s just a feeling and Bucs being Bucs things sure will get worse one way or the other (but we’ll still totally win the SuperBowl)