• archonet@lemy.lol
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    22 hours ago

    This told me nothing I didn’t already know. Like I said, he was a dickhead, to almost every single person in his personal and professional life. But evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo – you have to be actively striving to make life worse for at least a few hundred people or more.

    A dickhead and a shitty father, sure, I’m not defending his actions in the slightest. But “evil” would require him to have done something much worse than just treat his kid and the people in his immediate orbit like shit. Just my opinion.

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      22 hours ago

      evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo

      That’s a very strange definition. He also led moving manufacturing to China. You may have heard of the suicide nets they had to put up in their facilities.

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        I tend to agree. Being a narcissistic asshole isn’t the same as being evil. In the first case, it means doing bad things because you are self centered and have no regard for other people. The bad things aren’t done to hurt others, just to in a self serving way. Being evil requires an intent to do harm.

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          21 hours ago

          that’ll do it for you, eh?

          as someone else pointed out, your definition of evil is quite interesting in that a qualification is that it goes past people they are in physical proximity to.

          not sure where you got that, seems a little comic-book-y… how about a nurse in a hospital that slowly poisons a child, watching doctors be baffled and see the parents fall apart with unspeakable grief because she likes the drama and was bored. not evil?

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            21 hours ago

            There are plenty of people who are jackasses to those around them, and ruthless in business.

            Describing someone or something as evil really calls for something a bit more dramatic.

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              20 hours ago

              This.

              Use words accurately, or you dilute their meaning. Being a shit person is one thing, being evil is on another level. Conflating the real evil fuckers of this world with your average asshole diminishes the true depth of their awfulness.

              That said, yeah, brutal sweatshops in china were a thing before Apple moved out of his parents garage, so pushing for manufacturing there does indeed make him qualify.

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      He was the ringleader of an illegal anti-poaching agreement between tech companies that kept worker salaries down.

      He’s the root cause of much of what is broken with modern tech hiring. Bill gates is responsible for the other half (trick questions, etc)