• imaginary_num6erB
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    1 year ago

    “I asked them is there a technical reason for why 12th and 13thgen Parts aren’t supported and if not will they be included in the future? their response to that question was as follows: Intel has no plans to support prior generations of products with application optimization. That’s a really garbage response to be perfectly blunt about it.”

    Yeah, let’s have people rush to upgrade to 14th gen when it already had questionable value to upgrade. This APO feature will die in obscurity since Intel will realize 14th gen is not being adopted and unless they want a repeat of XeSS, they will cut their losses and decide not to invest resources into a feature that barely anyone uses.

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      1 year ago

      Not being adopted? Dell, HP, Lenovo, will slowly stop selling 13th gen and move on to 14th gen, like they do every year. Businesses will buy the computers with the biggest number gen, as they do. Gamers on reddit aren’t the huge market you may think it is for these companies.

  • XenonJFtB
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    1 year ago

    The insanity that after 3 generations. Windows kernel still can’t priorotise P-E core usage in games and background desktops. parking them still gives them better results. AMD cache was kinda acceptable on 7950x3d vs 7800x3d debait because games cant utilise that much cores anyway.

    And its that all that bios and mobo hoops you have to go through to be compatible for 2 titles.

    Intel mostly abandoned ship on any gaming competitiveness. The clock speeds and high tgp is at least has its use in workloads

  • Due_Teaching_6974B
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    1 year ago

    Intel’s E cores doing what they are supposed to on 2 games and 2 years after their debut, and only on their newest cpu lineup, peak Intel engineering right here

  • BerengalB
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    1 year ago

    To me this looks like it’s too early to make any definite conclusions on APO. I get that it’s tempting to conclude that they only support 14th gen CPUs as some sort of planned obsolescence scheme, but given that it also only works in two games really weakens that idea and makes the early release idea fit much better. So don’t judge them on the current state of APO, they may provide support for older gens in the future, but also don’t give them credit for it and factor it into the value of the product until APO becomes useful in practice, not just as a tech demo. This discussion is rather pointless at the moment. The technical details of how it works are much more interesting to discuss.

  • DktheDarkKnightB
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    1 year ago

    So APO is just Intel fixing the E-core issues. Whoa. I thought Intel stumbled onto something special when they mentioned per application optimization.

  • No-Roll-3759B
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    1 year ago

    12600k owner. i’m so frustrated. big.Little has never delivered on the behavior they promised, and now i’m being locked out of the fix. forcing me over to windows11 was not a fix, it was just aggravation.

    i early adopted the new arch because i really wanted to use an optane accelerator. intel quietly software locked 12th gen out of optane support, so when i built my system i spent an hour poring through the bios trying to figure out how to get it running and wondering why intel’s web instructions weren’t working for me.

    overall it’s been a pretty bad experience, and one intel curated for me. based on my 12600k experience i’ll be very reluctant to adopt intel proprietary technologies in the future.