and I never really post here, but I’ve been seeing so much hate for this kid after this game that I think is really unwarranted. I know I’m asking for downvotes, but I feel like I had to add my two cents after rewatching the offensive game and watching Zach play-

I agree that he’s played terrible in the past and think that someone like Dobbs would be performing better but Zach had so many great plays that were completely stripped from him because of drops, penalties, and overall incompetence. He is not why the Jets lost.

8 penalties for 83 yards, almost all of which came on crucial plays that would have set up scores or touchdowns that would have tied the game at the end 6-7 drops

And I’m ignoring things like bad play calling or anything I as a common fan wouldn’t know about but regardless, it seems nonsensical to just attack this poor kid for a game that really doesn’t seem like was his fault by any standards. He had some incredible throws and runs that kept the Jets in the game, and those seem to be ignored.

Again, I don’t believe he is a very good quarterback whatsoever, but for this game he played at the level he was expected to play.

I’ll prepare for the downvotes now, but I just wanted to say that he really isn’t why the Jets lost. I’m ridiculously frustrated but I can’t find a reason to attack Zach today.

  • Legitimate-Map-5351B
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    This team has a piss poor OL, a notoriously bad OC, and tried to establish Randal Cobb as a starting receiver…

    Zach is also bad, but he looks even worse due to the incompetence

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    Watch out. All the Zach haters only watch the qb side of football and think everyone who doesn’t blame him are “truthers” when there isn’t one actual Reuther out there they just see how bad where are as a football team in general especially offensively and usually starting with the coach for the offense.

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    I sound like the proverbial broken record but here goes again. A team can have a mediocre QB and still win…IF and only IF you have an excellent OL. Protection is key. The OL would give the QB an extra few seconds, they’d open up holes for the RB, pull and block those linebackers, stop stupid holding penalties, etc. etc.

    Sure - I think Hackett is a liability and does not call decent plays in a given situation and yeah, we have spoken and read volumes about Zach but please, please, please draft, trade for and get a good OL. And maybe a TE who can catch and run a few extra yards and not fall down immediately because he’s afraid to get hit.

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    Play calling blows. One weapon GW. No ground game OL are down to third stringers. Breece sas STUFFED like a thanksgiving turkey. Lazard awful. Uzomah took a TD off the board. And had another costly penalty. 4 or 5 other killer penalties killed 10+ yard plays. 1st and goal at the 14 after the td was called back for holding, we run 2 plays in a row up the middle. 3rd and goal from the 11 the defense knows we have to throw. Incomplete! Another field goal. Wilson got them down to the 3 with a 30-yard run and stepped out of bounds by an inch. Things are just not cutting their way. And you blame it on one player when another 10 are on the field. And an offensive coordinator who reminds me of PAUL HACKETT WHO WAS HERE IN THE EARLY 2000s and was run out of town. I find that idiots here that never played the game at a high level are the worst know it alls.

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    1 year ago

    I definitely think Zach’s part of the problem, but it’s not all him. People who call him the worst QB ever are being way overdramatic

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    Most people in here or in the media just think jump throwing 40 yards downfield and connecting is pure luck, like a blind squirrel. They don’t care how hard it is. With Zach, if we do win a game with multiple scores differential, it’s always 1. defense play great; 2. GW is amazing; 3. Breece is a beast.

    In short, you can’t win speaking what’s fair with Zach (let alone appearing that you might be defending him). That ship has sailed.

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    Zach is an average QB at best. But the system and play calling don’t fit his style. Plus, none of the backup QBs will perform better than Zach, I promise you. People are asking for something that doesn’t currently exist on this team.

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    This loss was not on Zach. But also most losses were on Zach. People will take the one week Zach isn’t most at fault and act like he played like this all season.

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    Is AOC better than ZW? 100% no. Is DeVito better than Zach? 1000% no. Would you want either DeVito or AOC play in ZW’s shoes? No way.

    God damn those kids still scored TDs while ZW didn’t. The lack of TDs is more of coaching issue than Zach. Last night, ZW only had 1-2 redzone opportunities. Redzone offenses were always initiated by run and ZW was always forced to throw 3rd and goal at more than 10 yards.

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    There is nothing wrong with Zach Wilson the person. He tries hard, he isn’t a troublemaker, and except for 1 super minor thing he said last year, he says all the right things. And quite frankly I don’t think the locker room can be annoyed or mad at him because he wasn’t the starter and he just got thrust into the situation.

    Many of the Jets losses this year can be attributed to one or two plays that may or may not be attributed to Zach and one or two penalties that had nothing to do with Zach. No, he isn’t the reason the Jets are 4-5 when you look at it from a play by play situation. But for every dropped pass or penalty there’s a wide open receiver for a TD that Zach doesn’t see.

    But at the end of the day, the team has an anemic offense and the offense is 100% driven by QB play. These games are coming down to miracle plays at the end of the game. The play calling is super conservative. Is it conservative because the Jets think they can win with defense? Is it conservative because the Jets coaches know if they open the playbook Zach will throw 5 INTs? I don’t know. I just know that the team isn’t going anywhere with Zach Wilson under center. He may yet turn out to be a good QB. But it will be somewhere else.

    What most people don’t get about the “Zach haters” is that we all want to be wrong so badly. I would love for him to turn around and throw 350 yds and 3TDS. I would love to say I was wrong. But I just don’t see that happening with the Jets.

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    I think JD has done a better job as GM then most have in the past however, I blame all the offensive problems on him. He got Zach wrong… Many of us would have too. He tried to fix the OLine, he didn’t tho. He brought in AR with no backup plan. Zach is not good… Yes. But the line sucks, the WR group is bad, the OLine is terrible and there was no backup plan for AR. This is all on JD.

    The scarier thing is that if it’s not JD then it’s Woody. If Woody is making the decision we’re really fucked.