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    21 hours ago

    see what i mean is thats not sabotage, its neither. thats just squeezing more out of us, poors are getting poorer. the people on the reigns are slightly less dumb than they look.

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      11 hours ago

      They ARE sabotaging the system that we as a society built though. Nothing is collapsing, they’re just knocking it down on our heads. Who said they were dumb, you?

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        we as a society didn’t build capitalism from the ground up, and capitalism was always supposed to have a boot constantly on our throats. theres nothing being “knocked down”, capitalism isnt going anywhere. there was never democracy in capitalism in the first place.

        they are just taking away the comforts they themselves conceded to us before.

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          The American capitalist society we built is more than that. That is what is being knocked down.

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            what you are probably referring to is not capitalism, they would never destroy the source of their own power. its the new deal-era soviet-inspired social security net. capitalism is what remains after they are done.

            and you only got that because people were getting angry at the capitalists and were organized enough to have actual leverage. they are destroying the island of socialist policies you had.

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              Its not a part of raw capitalism, but capitalism doesn’t exist in a vacuum, and it absolutey is a part of the capitalist system that America has built.

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                theres no such thing as “raw capitalism”. the political economic system is either capitalist or not.

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                  Capitalism can exist with or without safeguards to protect the least powerful among us from the most powerful among us. American capitalism has safefguards. The most powerful among us are knocking down said safeguards to take advantage of the least powerful among us. They are killing American capitalism to replace it with their more dangerous version of capitalism. I.e. american capitalism isn’t dying, its being murdered.

                  I’m just repeating myself now. I’m moving on from this. You have a nice day.

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                    American capitalism has safefguards.

                    clearly not. if a fascist can just come and take them off, they werent safeguards in the first place.