• superkret@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    With Paradox, you get a complete and very complex game right from the start.
    And then they shovel mountains of DLC on top for those who haven’t played anything else in the past 5 years.
    If you played it with all DLC as a beginner, you’d be completely overwhelmed.

    • SolOrion@sh.itjust.works
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      1 day ago

      Ehhh, they can be rough experiences on launch so if that’s what you mean by ‘right from the start’ I disagree a bit. I very much wish I let Stellaris cook a year or so before I grabbed it.

      Otherwise I definitely agree. The free updates they release with the DLC are usually excellent, and sometimes I still intentionally disable the DLCs because they add mechanics I’m not interested in interacting with. I own Man the Guns for HoI4, for example, and I almost never actually enable it.

      You can generally get the base game for a bit of nothing(Stellaris’ historical low is $4), and then grab the DLCs you think will interest you down the line when they’re also on sale.

      I am somewhat tired of them completely upending how Stellaris plays, though. I feel like every time I get comfortable with the game they overhaul some major system, and I’m learning how to play a new game again.

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        1 day ago

        I kinda feel you dude. I used to be pretty good at stellaris, and now it feels like I would need to learn it from almost the ground up to figure out armies and diplomacy and the rest

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        1 day ago

        Hmm i have to say i kind of disagree. The to go strat has been for most empires: Get alloys, get eng-research>the rest of research>energy and minerals>everything else. This worked now for many years. While they change up things (for example the whole stuff with leaders etc.) this pretty much stayed true and will make your empire pretty powerful.

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          14 hours ago

          Most of my playtime is before alloys even existed lol. If I played the game more often I’m sure I’d be able to figure it out, but it’s just bad luck on my part. I tend to get interested like a month before they’ve released some massive groundbreaking update.

    • Weslee@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      I get that, and I’m sure there are people who see that list of dlcs and only think about the amount of content positively.

      I usually pirate games before buying, and I would have purchased it because I really enjoyed it with all dlcs, but going from all content pirated to only base content purchased (unless I wanted to fork out over £250) felt like a kick in the teeth.