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  • almazing415BtoPorsche@gearhead.town718 S vs GTS
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    1 year ago

    If the S has SPASM, Sport Chrono, and PTV, it’ll handle just like the GTS, while also being slightly lighter. Otherwise, the GTS will have the better sounding engine and slightly better brakes. You can get Girodisc 350 and 330 mm rotors for the S for around $2400, so that’s not really a problem. Do I think the engine is worth another $15k? On a budget, no. Money no object, no. But I’d still buy it because money would be no object.



  • almazing415BtoPorsche@gearhead.townCayman 718 info
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    C8 is faster and much heavier. 718 is ~3100 lbs or less and the C8 with the Z51 package is ~3500 lbs and more. Sound wise, the C8 will sound better than the turbo 4, but when compared to the flat 6, the C8 and 4.0 GTS sound equally great. Theoretically, the C8 competes against the 911 and would objectively beat the 718 in nearly all objective metrics on track. But people don’t buy Porsches for the spec sheet.

    They’re vastly different cars. You can enjoy both, but it all depends on what you’re looking for. You can buy a C8 with the Z51 pack at the price of a base and S 718 with options. Both are fun on backroads. Both can be driven daily if you wanted.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7lgjTCpXFE&t=1s

    I linked a very thorough video comparing the C8 and BASE 718. Personally, I would choose the 718 10 out of 10 times. A 3000 lb mid engine sportscar with a small footprint and Porsche engineering for under $100k is a rarity in itself. The fact that it punches above what its spec sheets would suggest is the icing on the cake.


  • almazing415BtoPorsche@gearhead.townDoes it get better?
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    If it has 100k miles and the shocks and bushings have never been replaced, it could feel a little looser and sloppier than one with newer bushings and shocks. There are 3 tiers of suspension. Regular fixed shocks, and then PASM, and Sport PASM. PASM has electronic adjustable shocks and lowers ride height by 10mm. Sport PASM has the same electronic adjustable shocks, 20 mm lowered ride height, stiffer springs, and stiffer anti-roll bars. Sport PASM being the most sporty and aggressive.

    If you drove one with Sport PASM, then the only 981 that would handle better is the Cayman GT4. The GTS has Sport PASM as standard, but it is identical to what you can option on the S trim.
















  • My credit union will offer me 4.49% at 60 months, which is the lowest I’ve seen anywhere. Obviously, I’d like it lower, but it’s substantially better than the 6-9% that Porsche Financial offers. I think Cayennes and Macans would suffer in sales due to high interest rates because those are the models likely to be financed in full with little to no down payment.

    Whereas sportscars are aspirational purchases. Either the sportscar buyer is incredibly wealthy and will pay it in full with cash. Or the sportscar buyer is a regular person that has been saving up to buy it in full with cash or is putting down a substantial down payment and financing the rest. I fall under the latter. There are probably some that finance a Porsche sportscar in full, but I think the high interest rates will drive them away from doing so.

    I don’t think Porsche sportscars sales will suffer at all. Allocations are limited and demand remains high, from base model 718s to 911 S/Ts. The Macan and Cayenne will likely see a dip in sales from the, “what’s my monthly payment?” buyers until Porsche starts doing incentives on base model Macans and Cayennes that have been sitting on the lot.