Fastmail.
Can you choose which folders use real-time push vs which folders use polling?
I’m afraid not. I’m pretty sure the entire account uses polling. I’ll usually open the app and hit F5 to quickly poll for results, otherwise I’m waiting for the next sync.
Having said that, the unread counter works fine for sub-folders:
Edit: I was wrong, Mailspring uses the IMAP IDLE extension to wait for new mail delivery. Still doesn’t stop me from spamming F5 when I’m waiting for new mail to arrive.
Notifications on folders a have been added (I sort all my mail into a plethora of folders, keeping my inbox empty, so for me this is non-negotiable), and they all sync with a single f5 now.
Might be worth checking out again?
Mailspring, best client I’ve used in a while.
You can use any Matrix client with Beeper, you don’t have to use theirs.
Regardless, there’s nothing stopping you from recreating the same stack using the available tools.
What makes their service unique are the bridges. Download their sources, compile them, and then pair them with any server client combo you want.
If you insist on using their stack, you can still use an OSS client. They chose not to make their client open source as it is, by design, for their service only.
They’re trying to run a business aimed at people who don’t care about open source, and want the same closed source experience they get from their other chat apps but with inter connectivity between third party services.
If you want the latter without any closed source code, you can just go and do that. They’ve released all the important parts.
Edit: Here’s a guide to self hosting beeper.
There’s a lot of FUD in this comments section, so I’d like to clear the air. I’m pretty big on OSS myself, so it pains me to see a company doing all the right things get lambasted like this.
Beeper is just a Matrix server running in tandem with a series of custom, open source bridges written by Beeper. The value proposition is not having to deploy a Matrix server yourself, and not having to deploy each bridge yourself.
However, if you want to do that you absolutely can. I’ve been running Synapse + a subset of their bridges for a couple years now (the WhatsApp one being the oldest), and they are fantastic.
The devs contribute back to Matrix all the time and are great about supporting the spec as a responsible third party.
Their only closed source software is their client, which is - by definition - only written to work with their servers and not generic Matrix servers (e.g. It’s just a preconfigured matrix client which expects each bridge to be deployed, and doesn’t ask you for things like what server you want). As a result, you wouldn’t want to use it with your own stack; you can just pick one of the myriad OSS clients available for Matrix and go with that. I use SchildiChat, for example.
I don’t understand why, after doing all this work and publishing the source online for free (free as in freedom), they aren’t allowed to offer a preconfigured service to non tech savvy folk?
Honest question: Shouldn’t they be paid for their work?
Edit: And, please, stop asking questions like “How do they connect to X/Y/Z, anyway?” - just go read the source and see for yourself. These are the good guys working completely in the open, and you’re treating them as if Twitter just wrote a chat app.
Not closed source. It’s just a Matrix server instance running their own bridges. All the backend stuff is open source, the only closed source part is their client.
The client is specific to their site and unnecessary: just deploy Synapse, then pick and deploy the bridges of their suite you want to your server. You can then pick and use any of the available Matrix clients to get the same exact features. You can even sponsor them on Github, as I’ve been doing for months.
Well, at least you gave it your best!
Damn, I’ll check my privilege…
Sorry man, I don’t know what to tell you. I’ve got a pretty medium end VPS on which I host my Matrix instance - only had to add an extension for storage after the first few years when the DB got too big. Things were never as bad as you said early on, and as time passed I absolutely got to the point where it would take 10-20 seconds to sync - but this was after 2 years or so of constant use.
The reason why it takes long is because of the size of the sync payload - logically, for a new server/user, this really shouldn’t be that big (unless you’re in rooms like Matrix HQ). So, genuinely, look into optimization: postgres, your web server (nginx, apache, caddy), and limiting your users from accessing “problematic” rooms.
Barring that just deploy the sliding sync proxy and be done with it. It’s not really a problem that requires you to attempt it a thousand times.
So either you put some fancy wizardry into your system or you’re just in denial.
It’s called pure Debian, baby. Also, you’ll need a decent chunk of RAM if you don’t have that yet. Avoid a pagefile if you can.
Might need to check your setup. But, I will concede that after 2 years in - a point at which the DB grew into something massive, what with the massive Matrix rooms I was idling in - I started to notice slowdowns. The whole sliding sync proxy thing (with the new generation Element X clients) fixed everything.
You shouldn’t be having 10-20 second syncs with a new deploy (and limiting the amount of massive rooms your users can join, depending on your hardware), might be something awry relating to your config. If you’re absolutely certain it’s not that, check out the sliding sync proxy until it gets merged into the main spec - it’s great.
but had to get up and take a fat shit
It’s a 15 minute timer, just wipe quicker FFS.
Been using matrix as my primary communication method (including bridges to other networks for things like Slack and WhatsApp) for over 3 years now, doesn’t feel slow?
I don’t think they will, as gamers have been normalized to root kits shipping with games. It is a shame, but - where the majority of the audience is completely indifferent - unless the anticheat is doing something overtly problematic like causing a drop in frame rates (e.g. Denuvo) it won’t be removed.
But, as an alternative, you can play the game on Linux via Proton - it works, and absolutely doesn’t have root privileges. (note: I’m playing on the Steam Deck, but I see no reason why it shouldn’t work on normal Proton)
(edited for clarity)
Link seems to point to a 404. Here’s an updated link.
What about people who want to play multiplayer games? Like, when I play Counterstrike in a ranked fashion I sort of expect the service part… Same for games like Overwatch, Valorant, Dota, League, etc.
I feel like you’re missing a clarification of “No one wants Always Online or GaaS in single player or coop titles”?
They literally did all that, though. It hasn’t even been 2 hours since your post and their name has changed.
Sorry, I don’t use proton mail. It sounds annoying, but please understand that I am not talking from the perspective of a person who uses the service and is directly affected by them.
Hmm, guess I was wrong, then - that would be very annoying; especially if you’re getting pop-ups for a family plan you won’t ever be able to make use of as you’re a solo user.
Ah, you’re right - that is very annoying.
Aah, now I understand.
There is no such setting that I’m immediately aware of - but I am automatically getting messages for my folders. So I’m assuming it’s doing something in the background: most likely a periodic sync for the entire account.
Definitely doesn’t sound like the behavior you wanted, my bad. But, at least there are notifications on the folders once mail is received. 😅
Edit: In the repo for their sync engine it explains:
So the foreground worker only idles on the primary folder, but it does slowly iterate over all folders in the background.
No settings have been added for this functionality (that I’m aware of).
Edit 2: Went back and read your original comment; hadn’t noticed the PR was yours. If that’s the case then you’re probably aware of how the sync works anyway. My bad if I’ve posted stuff you’re already aware of.