yeah, it’s a shame the way the Wayland devs approached it in the beginning. I wish I hadn’t been spoiled by linux desktop environments because it would be significantly easier to just go back to windows and get properly functional display software. I really want to because I screen share a lot and that’s a massive inconvenience on wayland, or just on linux in general, but then I have to give up the desktop environment I’ve gotten used to.
sure except for the fact that by just using xwayland the problem was solved. the main problem in this situation was just people not reading the devs posts and commenting stuff anyways. not having wayland won’t save you from that. Original commenter implied that linux was somehow preventing the devs from making s functional application in general
It doesn’t work well on NVIDIA RTX 3080 or AMD 7900 XT
that is quite strange, not sure whats up with that.
Wayland is bad. Wayland is VERY bad, in fact. It is by far the worst display technology of any major platform.
You are correct, and X11 is pretty much neck to neck with it assuming they both work in how bad it is, but to be fair, X11 is a display server from the 80s that had no business making it this long without a properly functional competitor, and wayland, while it has been developed for 15 years, is still relatively young compared to other OSes.
However what you say is true, none of that matters because why it’s the case makes no difference to an end user. Linux just has clearly inferior display solutions to any other mainstream OS i’ve seen. Only way I can possibly see that’s going to change is if wayland is able to take over, and if maybe, just maybe enough people involved with it can actually realize that maybe their display server should have basic features that have existed since the 90s. I understand they have a philosophy, but its practically the same philosophy as the macOS display server and they figured out how to make things functional without compromising their philosophy like 5 years ago. Even if all that does happen though, that’s a ways off. Hopefully some day linux can have an actual fully featured display server, although i acknowledge thats no easy feat.
That really strongly depends on your hardware. My hardware straight up doesn’t work on X11 due to lag spike problems, but wayland works pretty well. It can do everything I need it to, and for whatever it can’t do xwayland is always there. Wayland devs absolutely need to actually implement basic display server features present on every OS ever that they refuse to acknowledge, and gnome devs need to actually get their heads out of their asses and cooperate on making wayland function consistently accross DEs, but wayland is far from bad. It’s pretty good actually if it works on your hardware, and is able to do some things that X11 is incapable of, like mixed refresh rate and multi-monitor VRR which are pretty important if you play games.
“barely usable” is just not even remotely correct. the main remaining hardware where wayland doesn’t work is older nvidia cards, and thats not really the wayland devs fault. every system ive used wayland on has worked fine. Wayland’s improving fast, but I will agree that if the wayland devs want people to actually switch over, they need to find ways to implement things like basic keylogging and screen recording permission management, because saying “just let the desktop environment deal with that” is clearly not going to work.
this isn’t a linux problem lol, it’s specifically a wayland problem. the program works fine on x11 already, which is why they disabled wayland. I don’t know why you’re acting like linux is some weird fake platform that nobody uses, this is literally the linux gaming sub. 12 year olds regurgitating BS is universal regardless of platform
this is the second needlessly condescending emulator dev moment ive seen recently lmao
who on earth has ever said wayland is perfect or feature complete lmao
it works fine for me on vulkan via lutris but I’m not sure when I last updated it
gaming is the same as both for me except without xorg limitations
I mean there’s not much to say about the issues he brings up. He’s right, not much to do about it. The fact that wayland lacks both a consistent implementation and basic windowing features is pretty much just the way it is, which is what he pointed out