I was just wondering, whether it is possible for any ADC (regardless of their build) to beat these champions in skirmish separated from their team. At the top of my head, I’m thinking maybe a very good Vayne or AP kai’sa or Nilah could do it or maybe AP varus?

  • 23NK1HB
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    1 year ago

    I have seen videos on bilibili before where they try out champions in hyper late game in 1v1 scenarios (any 6 items + pot and any rune, but no summ).

    From what I’ve seen, vayne is the most powerful champion in 1v1 under these circumstances.

    fiora vs vayne

    jax vs vayne

    yi vs vayne

    He has also done a tierlist for ranking the best 1v1 champions in these circumstances, with vayne being clear #1 (only bad matchup is aphelios) and aphelios being #4 (losing matchup into jax, ksante, yi, kayle)

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      1 year ago

      That jax build is shit, Iceborn steraks BORK Serylda’s (these items are shit), then black cleaver /frozen heart (these ones are fine).

      Nobody in any universe builds iceborn on jax, he should have done Triforce (better in 1v1 vs vayne) or more realistically Sunderer. The Seryldas should be a Shojin, the steraks should be deaths dance or even Zhonyas.

      These videos aren’t even using realistic builds. Why the fuck would you do a low damage build and needlessly stack two slows (iceborn/Seryldas) on Jax who an already leap with like a 2-3 second CD.

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        1 year ago

        as i’ve said before, if you believe you have a better build you can prove it by being the jax in the next video agaisnt vayne, i look forward to it

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          1 year ago

          Sorry I don’t waste my time pitting 1v1 full build champs against each other in the practice tool using hypothetical builds that would never see the light of day in any reasonable game; I’m busy spending my time actually ranking up.

          And nobody is saying jax can 100% beat vayne but that build is atrocious, but if you’re going to use Internet videos as evidence, at least use reasonable sources.