The formatting sucks because I’m using my phone to do all this, but I was curious about some areas of our team and wanted to dive into the stats. I used Stroud for refrence because the general consensus is that he was the better pick and is doing much better than Bryce…but here is what I found:

Stroud has been blitzed, hurried, and hit more, yet takes fewer sacks. His on-target % is slightly lower than Bryce and his bad throws are more common than Bryce. His drop rate is virtually the same. His throw aways are much less. While all of this differs, their pocket time is the exact same.

With these stats, it paints a clear picture of what Bryce is dealing with. Teams are blitzing far less vs Bryce and are still racking up tons of sacks because the line isn’t holding up. That also means there are more players in coverage locking up receivers forcing Bryce to throw it away before taking a sack. When he does throw it to receivers, he is more accurate than Stroud.

This means what we see happening on offense is the result of the o-line, the coaching, and/or the wide receivers. Bryce is clearly not the issue here.

  • Objective-Advance-97BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Have you seen his deopbacks and throwing motions? Young looks like an old man out there slow as fuck

  • 935742705812BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    So uh no rookie QB would be doing well with this offense.

    It would be nice if the solution were that simple, but it’s not

    • ApparentlyISuck2023OPBEnglish
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      11 months ago

      There are 3 QBs who are perfectly covered more than Bryce. 2 that are the same. The rest are less. I wonder how much of that comes back to scheme. Bryce’s create rate is clearly low. I wonder how much of that is influenced by WRs who don’t go deep which clogs up the field. We could probably look at other QBs who have shitty create rates and see if their WRs are doing the same.

  • reddit9603BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Am I reading this correctly? I see Young and Stroud have an identical amount of time in the pocket (PktTime of 2.5 seconds for both). Stroud was blitzed, hurried, and hit more frequently than Young, but he has taken less sacks and has performed far better than Young.

    All this tells me is that our offensive line isn’t as bad as many are making them out to be, and that Young holds onto the ball for too long, resulting in more sacks. So How does this prove that it’s not all on Young?

    I know, you probably blame our receivers for not creating enough separation. I call that a load of crap. The receivers were NFL-open plenty of times, but Young was looking for Alabama-open, which he will very rarely get in the NFL. Young has got to process faster, let the ball go faster, and improve his ball placement. You can’t blame it all on the receivers.

  • reddit9603BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    “Teams are blitzing far less vs Bryce and are still racking up tons of sacks because the line isn’t holding up.”

    What do you mean teams are blitzing far more against Stroud? Stroud has faced blitzes only 12 more times than Young, and that’s likely because Stroud has played one more game than Young, who missed one game due to injury. If you divide the blitz numbers by the total games played, on average Stroud has faced blitz 8.8 times per game, against Young’s 8.4 per game. The difference is tiny, so your entire argument falls flat on its face.

  • pancaketac0BEnglish
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    11 months ago

    Correct it isn’t all on him the majority of the blame goes to the team for traded up took him a “system” guy at #. He’s not the type of athlete that is going to make a team better on his own he is going to need a lot of pieces around him to succeed. We all better hope that the org finds theses pieces and finds them fast!

  • FelizMendelssohnBEnglish
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    11 months ago

    I don’t even need stats to know this: our offense is one of the most vanilla, slow predictable dirt-simple schemes I’ve ever seen and we don’t have ANY personnel that scares anybody.

    Receivers are either slow or terrible route runners (other than thielen). Oline can’t open holes for the rbs. Hayden Hurst is MIA. Ian Thomas can run block but not run routes or catch.

    IMO this is a worse situation than we were in 2010, back then we had pro bowl caliber Olinemen like Gross, Kalil, and actual weapons like deangelo and j stew, not to mention agent 89. We just needed a qb not named clausen to throw them the ball. Now we have OPPOSITE problem, a qb for the future with bad line and skill positions