It is just pathetic and tragic at this point what is happening with this game. Ping changes were objectively bad and there was backlash with good points by most of the people. Nothing changed.

Shen community did a 30 days boycott because their champ is an ult bot that has the power level of 2 minions combined yet nothing changed. (expect from some bugs that shouldn’t exist in the first place)

Velkoz community literally went all out to give solid feedback and points on what Velkoz needs in order to become a relevant champ. Azzap gave a bunch of advice on what to change and what not to, because obviously a Challenger otp player should be better at game design than actual game designers, yet all of the stuff he had to say were ignored.

But let’s change Seraphine and Ksante out of knowhere, because people didn’t ask that. Right…

What is going on ? Do they even care about the game at this point ? Feels like these are the first steps to killing the game. And they certainly succeeded in that.

Edit : Also no, this is not about hating Phreak again, it is about Riot not listeing to their community at all whatsoever.

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    I’m just gonna go out on a limb here and say that Phreak was generalizing and the League community has given good feedback at times, it’s simply that you need to sift through mountains of shit feedback to find it.

    What is going on ? Do they even care about the game at this point ? Feels like these are the first steps to killing the game. And they certainly succeeded in that.

    12 year old complaint and still as accurate as 12 years ago.

    Edit : Also no, this is not about hating Phreak again, it is about Riot not listeing to their community at all whatsoever.

    Why mention him then, especially in your title lmao
    Riot has shown repeatedly that they listen to their community in many, many aspects. Whether or not they implement the requested changes is another matter and I certainly don’t like chances often enough myself. I’m not going to comment on anything velkoz specific (though ratio changes unsatisfying) but your generalization is exactly the same thing you complained about Phreak doing.

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    “League community doesn’t know how to give feedback.”

    Presumably he wasn’t talking about Redditors making posts in their subreddit and more, you know, the people directly sending him insults and death threats.

    I don’t like Phreak but you’re insane if you think that it’s totally fine for people to threaten harm over a fucking video game.

    obviously a Challenger otp player should be better at game design than actual game designers

    This sounds like sarcasm, reads like parody, and yet I’m pretty sure you’re completely serious.

    In which case your brain is smoother than an ice rink and it’s somewhat impossible to even begin to have a discussion about how shortsighted all of your assumptions are.

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      And his pick rate didn’t drop significantly enough to do any changes. Turns out, a lot of people still want to play Shen in its current state. Just because some people are vocal about a subject doesn’t mean everyone agrees.

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    I dont think phreak is good at balance but thank fuck he doesnt take feedback from otp communities lmao. No game or champ should be balance on what otps say. They should take bug feedbacks but nothing more

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    Phreak ignores all feedback lol we’ve known that for 9 years. Then we have the developer apologists pretending all developers are as rude and ignorant of the community as phreak

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    Pathetic comments tbh,I love this community protecting riot for some reason like if they are doing a good job at balancing the game

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    opgg where you support the company by playing 10 hours a day please

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    Well, there are obviously going to be exceptions. And phreak is feeling emotional at the moment. let’s take a step back and chill. EVERYONE IS GOING FUCKING CRAZY because finals is on Sunday.

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    Phreak is embarrassing himself. I don’t know why anyone thought a caster would be good for probably the hardest position in all of League of Legends.

    And also don’t know why everyone is su**ing his d.

    He’s clearly not good for this position, especially if he can’t handle any pressure.

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    Seraphine got cahnges because Seraphine Bot was OP. Ksante got changes because he’s a pro-play problem. Insert Showmaker meme. Obviously he’s overtuned after giving him compensation buffs for removing a lot of his mechanics, so they’re nerfing him next patch.

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    Yorick’s pets still have AI that predates Pong, and has one of the longest unaddressed bug lists.

    Riot’s response to all of Yorick’s problems is “His code is difficult to work with, so we try to avoid making changes as often as possible.” It’s the stance they take with half of the roster. Not uncoincidentally the half that sells the fewest skins.

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    They need to do like a QandA on discord every week with like 10 random people 2 challenger, 5 diamond and above and 3 anything else to ask why league is fun.

    Why certain champions annoying and buffs/nerfs you think should be looked at then gather info from that would be so much more useful.

    Because i think league is actually fun right now despite some people hating it. I want voice coms i know over 50% of this subredit dont which anoys me to no end but i accept it. I main xin zhao i wish we had like %hp dmg somewhere a tiny bit but xin community still tries to find a way to cope when people build armour and armour boots.

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    i guess it’s giga hard to ask pro players and high elo players for feedback on champions to actually make the game better when you want to balance around silver-bronze?

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    League community will never be happy. Ever. Because even if 1000 players are happy and enjoy playing the game (like myself) all it takes is one person to cry about the game being broken and how riot is so bad and complain.

    I’m not saying that Azzap’s points were not valid or that I agree with the ping changes, but I just think League is a very hard game to balance but I ultimately think Riot is doing a great job because I’ve been playing ranked for 3 years and I love the game and have fun, even with every meta shift and patch and nerf/buff/system change. I main Quinn and in those 3 years my champ has lost sanguine blade, gone through random buffs/nerfs and went between Shieldbow, On hit and lethality builds being meta due to system overhauls. But I don’t care I still have fun playing. Am I gonna cry and rage if they take 5 ad away from galeforce? no

    People need to stop crying. Like tbh if you hate the game and think Riot is ruining it don’t play. The thing people don’t realize is Riot CANT listen to all of you. If someone says “buff Velkoz” and they do, then someone else will complain and say Velkoz is broken Riot should stop ruining the game.

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    Preseason starts in a month and half there is no way riot is going to do major balance changes to a champion that isn’t op till after Mythics are removed.