Sums up the organic meta vs forced meta debate quite nicely.

I love playing Rell but I fully agree, that Q + smite thing is so obnoxious. I can understand that with Nunu but why is Rell allowed to have that shit lmao.

Isn’t it exactly what community was asking for ages lol? Complains that jungle meta is boring af 15 champions are as old as this game, and Riot step by step make small QoL improvements to unlock jungle to multiple champions and niche picks. Now you complain in other side lol

The past part is how you get a jungle pool of only a handful of champs and a meta of only 3 of them. Not to mention it makes it so much harder to balance champions that could flex between jungle and other roles.

Is buffing dmg to camps a somewhat arbitrary and forceful way of approaching jungle champ viability? Yes. But it also makes it a lot easier to balance.

and how about the opposite? camille has gimmicks to her kit to be forced out of the role, its stupid

I hate how Riot leaves traditional junglers in the dirt and buff something random up to 300% damage buff to monsters. I really felt shit when morgana was clearing her jungle without any damage, with insane speed and also had a good gank setup while I was still at krugs with 70% hp

I played the new game mode for the first time last week since the new pet stuff came out to help junglers a year ago. Those fking item descriptions are SO LONG that I had no idea what to buy or what they did. The fact that a whole essay has to be on each of those items to balance the jungle really made me realize how many modifications were needed just to make the jungle playable.

I will say though that even though they have to make these insane mods all the time, it does allow for the jungle pool to be much larger than I remember in early seasons. There was a season where if you didn’t play J4, Lee Sin, or Gragas as jungler, you were flamed and basically throwing the game.