Probably a very salty Aphelios main that lost a lot of games lately on their main and will likely be getting a break from them.
But answer me this. When was it the last time that you lost or won due to having Aphelios in your game. Not because the player was good macro wise, or their dodging was good. But because they were good at playing Aphelios, i.e. landing their skillshots, knowing their dmg and their kit etc.
Phreak was saying that champions like Yone or Riven that have multiple dashes, if they get fed they will not allow you to play the game. They become very high agency if they get ahead early. Azzapp was saying that Vel’Koz feels bad to play because of the low impact agency they have over the game whether they are 5/0 or 0/5 on the champ.
I believe the same holds for Aphelios. It doesn’t matter if you are 5/0 or 0/5, the agency you have over the game’s outcome is low. You cannot chase people, people can still run you down and you die within the first thing that touches you. Yet, if somehow the enemy team has no idea how the champ works, you might get a kill on them out of surprise. That’s not because you played well, is because the enemy has lack of knowledge of your champ.
Just need some thoughts on how to impact the game playing this champion.
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I think it’s the same reason he is not played in norms/solo q but played lots in competitive. He’s a champ that if he has his team and support playing around him can carry hard. But if his support doesn’t know how to play with him, he is useless. Which contrasts heavily to champs like Kai’sa or Xayah with lots of self-peel or options. He is somewhat similar to Kalista in that sense
Not just Aphelios, I rarely if ever really remember anything my ADC did or what champion they picked. The only memorable ADC to play against is Vayne because she’s overtuned now.
I’ve spammed Aphelios quite a bit and I believe he’s one of the strongest adcs if your team plays with you. Legit had pentas and quadras back to back every game with a duo, soloq though… ugh.
I’ve had legit games where i was full build, could kill anyone in 2-3 autos, but couldn’t do anything because team stubbornly refused to peel (and we had a rell and another frontliner).
From my experience, if you want to play Aphelios, hold 4th or 5th pick, wait for top/sup/jg to pick. IF and only if there are 2 frontliners, you can play Aphelios. Otherwise don’t even bother.
At the very least if the team doesn’t peel you can use them as meat shields, but you need those 2 big health bars at least.
So you need someone to play good with you, to do something? Do you think that is champion satisfaction? When you win with Aphelios, you only win if your team is good? That again means you’re not impacting the game.
Aphelios with a lead feels like one of the more scarier ADCS. You list a ton of issues with the ADC role in general, claim that Aphelios only gets kills if the enemy team doesn’t understand him, which is a laughably bad take, and I know deep down you know that aswell.