For those who don’t think we should fire Frank this year, and give him an additional year to see what shapes out… why? I truly want to understand what it is that you see differently than the rest of us.
We’ve had plenty of “why Frank should be fired” posts, so I’ll keep my points short for the initial post. If you’re on the “keep frank” side, please let me know what your view on these points is.
1. We have gotten worse week over week
2. Play calling is very clearly an issue since the pre-season
3. Frank has shown time and again that he is set in his ways and does not adapt
4. Keeping a coach we know won’t have long-term success does more harm to Bryce’s future and puts us in a NY Jets/Cleveland Browns type of situation.
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three head coaches in three years is a recipe for disaster.
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new coach should = new GM.
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no first round pick in this draft, and it’s looking like the #1 overall pick will be achieved, yet not procured.
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the owners have shown to meddle and make picks based on their emotion, and not on the basis football acumen.
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I don’t know if canning Frank would be good? The DC is a solid coach and the run game looked ok yesterday. It’s hard to average 5.0 YPC when you can’t throw the ball: either due to the line struggling some coupled with less than average QB play.
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HC/GM candidates may be frightened to be forced to work with “x” player or “QB”.
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a retread would be likely bc it would be tough for a Ben Johnson, or other up and comer to get their “one shot” on a less than truly clear slate.
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better for the owner to either trade for Belichick, hire some offensive guy, or roll w Frank another season and hope BY can cleanup his foot work and take snaps under center.
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He has to go, I’ll add to it why!
He’s not relating to these players, and I don’t think anyone cares to listen to him speak.
Byrce needs a new voice someone he seems interested in interacting with. GM & coach has to go now!
Maybe you can salvage byrce confidence and playing ability b4 its to late, bc wat hurts a qb more than anything is hesitation means he’s not confident in what he’s seeing 2nd guessing himself, and that’s cause for disaster for any qb early in their careers!
I’m team bring in a new GM and let them decide what to do, but here’s the pro-Frank argument:
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it’s simply a personnel issue. The results wouldn’t be meaningfully different with any other coach. You just can’t accurately judge a coach unless the roster is at some minimum level of talent (this is the main reason)
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all of the complaints about his personality/if he has lost the locker room are just total nonsense that people make up when frustrated with the season. He takes blame in press conferences because that’s who he is as a person. He will never, ever do anything except put the blame on himself, even when it’s not accurate (and that’s what a good coach should do publicly). The lack of emotion is just nonsense people complain about when their team is losing. Nobody complains about Andy Reid, Shanahan, etc not being emotional. You have no idea what the locker room is like and how the players feel about it.
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a new coach and new scheme will just stunt BY’s progress even more as he has to learn all the new stuff
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this staff is very, very qualified, yet everyone likes to point fingers that this entire staff of highly respected coaches across the league is actually just terrible. But I think there’s a non-trivial chance that this staff is actually not the issue and the roster is just that bad. There is no guarantee a new staff is better.
Basically, it boils down to people placing WAY too much blame on the coaching staff. The best coaches in the world are worth ~3 wins. The best QBs are worth 2x that and the best GMs are worth even more as they pick the players. It’s the worst offensive roster in the league. Bottom 10 at every single position (bottom 5 at a few). That’s the problem
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It’s not a good business decision for a variety of reasons. It’s not just Frank that will be affected
Frank needs to be fired but the failure of this team is on Fitterer and Tepper…someone at the top (my guess is Tepper) thought we were just a QB away from competing. This was obviously false…we had no receivers, an offesnive line that on paper was middling and no depth, the worst tight end room in the league and a defense that lacked elite players and depth. Couple that with what looks like a whiff at QB, not many coaches would be able to do much with this roster…still, the team is undisciplined and not ready to play. Game management has been an issue and players don’t play hard for him…it’s a mess all around but not entirely Frank’s fault…
I think that you have to give Reich at least one more year so the team can evaluate what went wrong this season and go out in the off season and target specific pieces to improve. They can tweak the offensive scheme to work for Bryce, too.
If Panthers show no major improvements and don’t come close to playoffs, next year, then I think you fire him. Putting Bryce in a system of continually changing coaches isn’t good. And who’s to say the next person will be any good?
Panthers need to spend big on the O line and receivers in the off season.