If there isn’t a QB they feel is going to be head and shoulders better than Justin, I draft MHJ and trade out of the second first round pick for ‘25. I think part of Justin’s issues are coaching. Not all of it, but he’s not getting the coaching he needs to be confident with his reads. It would be good to see another coaching staff with him and whether or not they can improve his processing time and anticipation.
I do think Justin showed a lot of good yesterday and made enough plays to win the game. We can always nitpick on should he have done this or that, other players stepping up, etc. but that’s not what this thread is about. This is about the pending decision on the direction to go at QB and HC and tying the two together. I think what is sometimes lost in the discussion of what happens at QB after this season is the fact that what happens with the coaching staff really plays a really big role in that decision as well. I highly doubt there is a large contingency of people here who feel Eberflus and Getsy should survive after this season. Yet we have a large group of fans who want to retain Fields. But then you must answer the question on whether or not it is wise to not let the new coaching staff handpick their QB. We constantly complain that we never time up our hires correctly when it comes to having the GM, Coach and QB all in sync and on the same timeline. Like when we paired Nagy with Mitch – it was an arranged marriage that then led to questions about Nagy not wanting Mitch, Nagy made Pace go get Foles, etc. And we did the same thing with Justin being paired with this staff and tasking them to make it work with a QB they had no part of in the decision-making process when we drafted him. Do we really want to go down that same path? Like I get it, in a perfect world Justin shows he is that dude and we have 2 first rounders to spend on other positions. But unless you are OK with bringing back this staff, we’re basically repeating our mistakes of the past. And I am not here saying 100% we should or should not move on from Justin, I just think if we opt to do so, keeping the staff intact is likely the best decision as well. And after yesterday’s coaching blunders that’s also a tough pill to stomach.
We have this discussion everyday. Idc what they do, just fire the coaching staff, and I am certain we will win more games
No legitimate coach in the league would not want Justin Fields as his QB.
We’ve had 11 QBs in 10 years.
Maybe QB isn’t the problem.
New coach gets a new qb. No way we hire a guy and then tell him to decide Fields 5th year option in the off-season and not let him pick a qb with one of two top five picks. Even if the new guy loves Fields that’s career suicide.
The proper way to do is hire your HC right away and let them decide if they want Fields or a Rookie QB. We’re going to end up with a top 3 draft pick, maybe even 2 of them. We should let the new coach decide if he wants to build a system around Fields or draft a QB who fits his scheme.
Flus is gone. No chance he returns at this point. That means an entire new coaching staff. With that said we’re probably going to hire a guy who’s won before and he can bring in the coaching staff and QB he wants.
No I think it’s time to trade Fields to Atlanta. Get him a fresh start away from this shitshow. Time to fire Flus and Getsy too. Poles gets one more chance. He needs to hire a good coach, stockpile draft picks, draft a franchise QB, defensive tackles, edge rushers, and another receiver, and then we’ll be all set…assuming he doesn’t make things worse
If we keep this staff I will light myself on fire
If a new coach comes in and says he can’t win with Fields then this coach isn’t the new coach and you interview the next guy.
Yes
I still think Justin is the dude. He has obvious weaknesses that are probably exacerbated by the current coaching staff, but the positives outweigh the negatives overall.
Based on what I’ve seen from people that are way more qualified than me to evaluate the situation, the coaching staff is to blame for a lot of the problems on offense. Getsy basically knows how to do one thing well, which is pushing the run-game, but overall scheme and playcalling is a disaster.
It really sucks for Fields and this offense to have to start over again, but I have zero faith in Getsy to evolve into some sort of offensive guru. At the very least, Getsy should be gone at the end of the season, and probably Flus as well if Poles has any chance of saving his job.