fyi, dennis shooting 39% from 3 vs Fred at 36% and also higher efficiency overall
Their statistical histories favor Fred.
However, in this one particular season, they are fairly even. Although, I’ve noticed Fred has taken the lead with his assists.
I think Fred also has different intangibles and better post-defence.
Dennis however, has helped gain the Raptors a back up PG in Flynn.
Dennis only has a World Cup title and MVP, he does not have the undrafted to champion storyline.
dennis is like the anti-fred. bet on himself and lost. now he’s a poor man’s fvv lmao. doing great things for our team this year though. pleasantly surprised. fvv was kind of a ball hog during his contract year. glad we ain’t paying him that salary.
Mostly shooting. Teams don’t guard him off ball which regardless makes it harder on our creators bc they have less room to operator and more defensive attention.
It’s a little bit of an issue when you consider Dennis needs the ball too and at the end of the game it might be a problem since it’s schemable to get him off ball to shoot/create, in general he’s someone who controls the O alot when he’s in, which can be viewed as negative to some
Personally I don’t think he is much of a downgrade though and MUCH rather prefer him to Fred especially contract wise, I think he has been amazing this year. Think for most people just don’t gotta overthink it, he’s a walking paint touch and makes good passes off his drives most of the time, he’s pretty efficient too for a guard.
fred getting paid 40 mil to have one of the lowest true fg%
There are a few things Fred is objectively better at, and a few things Dennis is objectively better at. If you add those things up I do think Fred ends up being a more valuable player (WHEN HE’S PLAYING WELL). Like, Fred is not shooting particuarly well so far this season, similar to his start last year, and even then the advanced metrics basically peg him as about equally valuable to winning as Dennis. When his three point shot is going, especially off the bounce, he just as a combined package has more little ways to contributing to winning than Dennis, who derives almost all his value from the offensive end so if he isn’t scoring he really isn’t contributing elsewhere.
Fred is better at:
- passing AND not turning it over
- shooting the three, particularly off the dribble (one of the specifically most valuable offensive shots in basketball)
- defence
Dennis is better at:
- pressuring the rim
- pick and roll pocket passes
- floater game
Although Dennis percentage is better, teams don’t respect him as much as shooter hence he doesn’t space the floor as well. That’s about it IMO. Still a lot of dribble dribble dribbling if you ask me.
Fred defence is better. Also Fred is 4th in the league in assists this season… He’s not worth the $40M but he’s a better PG.
Watched fred chuck up a 3 as soon as he crossed half court with 1 min left last game
That’s the reason Dennis is an upgrade
Well skill wise Fred is better IMO, but when you factor in discipline then it gets tricky. Can’t forget that FVV played in a system with no proper centre (Siakam at centre a lot of the time), Scottie still trying to figure it out, and numerous injuries throughout the season. Dennis is more accepting of his role here which makes him a better fit, but if Fred would have accepted that then I’d take Fred over Dennis. Fred had the ability to drop 35+ points and carry the team to a win, Dennis doesn’t.
Dennis is G!
Fred’s peak is higher than Dennis’. Fred could be an absolute flamethrower from deep.
Dennis just gives you a higher floor by nature of being taller and more athletic, while retaining most of the same skills Fred has.
I think Fred is a better player, but Dennis is creating more value versus his contract.
He’s not. Dennis is a much much better perimeter defender. Can get to and finish at the rim. Fred, his entire career, has been at the absolute bottom there.