I don’t think there is one. I didn’t watch the game. I just checked what happened, and now I’m super glad I didn’t watch it. This franchise does nothing but take advantage of us and waste our time, money, effort, loyalty, and passion.

1 or 2 years of 40+ year old Rodgers off an Achilles injury is not worth this dog shit. It’s not worth this organization willingly throwing an entire season in the trash just because things don’t go according to plan.

We’re gonna end up as one of the worst offenses in NFL history, and you think Rodgers is gonna miraculously fix all that? Do you seriously believe we’re gonna fix this in 1 offseason? The defense has completely given up. So we have nothing. Zero. We have a GM and HC who both have not had winning seasons as part of this organization.

Players are upset. Fans are upset. We do all of the stupid shit that bad teams do. Still incompetent. Still pathetic. Still a laughingstock. The butt of all the jokes.

The GM, HC, and entire offensive coaching staff don’t deserve to keep their jobs.

  • monafikB
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    10 months ago

    Only if we lost to the Rams 3 years ago… none of this would have happened

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    10 months ago

    what faith do you have in woody hiring the right HC and GM this time?

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      10 months ago

      Something about a stopped clock being right twice a day

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    10 months ago

    I see this as being on Woody, Douglas, and Hackett. I don’t think Saleh has any say in personnel. I would not be surprised if he was being told to keep playing Zach because a bust at QB is huge embarrassment for both Woody and Douglas. And Hackett is just a horrible OC. Nothing about his play calling are creative. So, I’d rather we fire Hackett, give Saleh a competent OC, and give Saleh one more year to see what he can do. Constantly rotating out head coaches is just as bad as rotating out QBs.

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    10 months ago

    For me there are 2 main arguments.

    1. The first is JD’s process. Overall, it’s extremely sound. He builds through the draft, and supplements through FA. He trades players out for picks and he fleeces teams. He builds through the trenches. He doesn’t overpay free agents and chase big names with a bag of money. In 4 years he has managed to build one of the best defenses in the NFL from nothing. On defense, we see the fruits of his process.

    On offense he missed. The Becton pick I didn’t like, always wanted Wirfs more, but guess what it was still him prioritizing the OLine. At QB I didn’t like the Wilson pick, I wanted Fields. But Fields isn’t great and at least he cut ties with darnold, somehow got a second, and saw to draft a QB. He prioritized OL again with AVT. He prioritized it again by giving the bag to Laken, his like first big FA signing. Unfortunately Laken sucks for some reason and the others keep getting hurt.

    Draft picks are a lottery. As long as GMs have good process, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt on picks. There are millions involved in the NFL, if it were a science to draft well it would be done.

    Overall, I like his process and how he builds a team. It’s how all great teams are built. He’s not perfect, but it’s almost impossible to be perfect. That leads to the second reason

    1. How is he replaced. People’s main issues with JD seem to be this: he drafted a bust QB in Zach, he drafted a bust in Becton, he didn’t get a better backup than zach this year. What am I missing?

    So to replace him, let’s just get a GM who builds a team exactly the same way, but doesn’t miss on draft picks. Easy right??? Obviously not to anyone with eyes. If we fire JD odds are we end up with Macagnan again. I don’t want him fired just for nothing.

    At the BARE MINIMUM I want to keep him around to see the full team next year with Rodgers. We never had a shot this year. And we wouldn’t have had a shot with any QB given the state of our decimated line rn.

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    10 months ago

    24-53 record for JD. If they lose to Atlanta, thats 30 more losses then wins.

    That’s not a misleadingly bad win percentage. That’s just bad.

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    10 months ago

    I’m okay with keeping saleh if we get an OC that isn’t comically bad and we had a real QB. I’m convinced we’d be 9-2 with Gardner Minshew. Along with being better with any average QB, he’s a spark plug. Who would replace him?

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    10 months ago

    As far as the argument for Saleh … Zach Wilson. He’s been stuck with him. No matter who else has come or gone in the QB room, he’s been stuck with ZW. He never had a chance. He hasn’t particularly had OC help at all to top it off.

    I can’t ignore what good he has done for our defense.

    As for JD, sure there have been some blunders, but this team has acquired some good talent these past few years. Whether or not anybody realizes it, the GM has shit to do with how said talent actually performs when they get here.

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    10 months ago

    Saleh is not a head coach and Douglas has been guilty of malpractice–no legit back up QB and no offensive line. He also allowed Rodgers to dictate terms and saddle him with failures–how pathetic

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    10 months ago

    Using injuries to keep your job is the M-O of bad coaches and GMs.