• festar35_PacersB
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    1 year ago

    Haven’t the Raptors also started winning more games as well? I really like the Siakam + Barnes duo/dynamic you guys have going on.

    • MrkGrnB
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      1 year ago

      They were playing .500 basketball both ways. Neither version of the team saw more success if anything Scottie played against the harder teams and then Siakam got handed the keys after we’d played Philly twice, Boston once, and the Wolves once. So Siakams had the easy go of stat padding against teams like Washington and Detroit while also having us still struggle immensely on offense. Also plenty of teams that are horrible defensive squads in Dallas, the above 2 mentioned teams and Indiana.

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        1 year ago

        Oh, right. I like the Raptors players, but I really struggle to understand it from a team perspective. Will just have to watch and see what happens this season.

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    1 year ago

    Truly believe Scottie won’t be able to get to that next level with Siakam on the roster

    they just play to similarly positionally and if you have poeltl with them too that lane is clogged

    • efficientshelter69OPB
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      1 year ago

      Yup, and the numbers reflect that. Both are at their best with the ball in their hands without two guys in the paint. Their games aren’t optimized when they’re relegated to primarily being an off-ball player.

      Its a shame that your star prospect has gotten better all over the board and then you relegate him to role player as a reward. I hope its to increase Siakam’s trade value otherwise what are we doing in what was supposed to be a developmental season.

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        1 year ago

        The numbers absolutely do not reflect that, not even close. Just look at Scotties numbers with and without Siakam and Poeltl on the court:

        With both Siakam and Jak: 239 minutes, -0.2 net rating, 51.2 FG%, 57.3 2PT%, 40.6 3PT%, 59.7 TS%, 0.97 Points per Possession, 16.3% Free Throw Rate, 37.2% 3 Point Rate, 20.6% Usage Rate

        W/O both Siakam and Jak: 153 minutes, -8.7 net rating, 37.7 FG%, 43.1 2PT%, 29.4 3PT%, 45.1 TS%, 0.82 Points per Possession, 12.9% Free Throw Rate, 40% 3 Point Rate, 28.2% Usage Rate

        Scottie’s efficiency plummets like a stone when Jak and Siakam are out, and he takes even more 3s and draws fewer fouls when they’re on the bench. Like it’s night and day. Why make stuff up?

        Stats from fantasylabs.com/nba/on-off/

    • MrkGrnB
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      1 year ago

      Yep, they’ve both only scored 20 once this season in the same game and Scotties 20 came at the VERY end from fouls to draw the game out. I just can’t stand to watch a guy that’s way more talented than Siakam be relegated to being Draymond Green.

  • mxgicjohnsonB
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    1 year ago

    Lol we found out dude has the absolute dog in him and coach said yeah… never again

    Should be the #1 option no matter what

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    1 year ago

    I’d like to know if his usage rate actually went down significantly, and/or if his eFG% went down. I feel like he’s just not hitting certain shots he was making in earlier games. And when he’s shot is not falling he tries to contribute on other ways (boards, passing , defence) which is a good thing.

    • MrkGrnB
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      1 year ago

      Just go to basketball reference and look at advanced game logs, there’s a clear drop in usage for Scottie and a clear skyrocketing of Siakams right after the Spurs game. It’s like they saw Scottie taking the next step in that 4th quarter and Siakam cried he was being upstaged to Masai and Darko got pressured to give him the ball more.

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    1 year ago

    People really think Scottie needs more touches as if he’s LeBron James, lol. That’s not his game.

  • MrkGrnB
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    1 year ago

    Were just gonna keep losing in the play in or first round for the next 4 years so Siakam can get his stats and the team can evaluate and THEN they might finally hand the keys to Scottie. I can already see this clown car franchise paying Pascal this offseason entirely too much money for a guy who’s proven to not be a factor in the playoffs as the guy.

  • willieb3B
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    1 year ago

    Scottie is playing to his abilities well so who cares what he is averaging. He’s our number one guy to grab rebounds, he’s finding open guys, he’s playing good D, he’s taking the appropriate shots, and he’s making drives when he needs to. He’s really been the jack of all trades master of none. You can jack up his usage but it wouldn’t change the result in these games. Nevertheless he still has opportunities to shine when other guys are cold, and other guys gotta realize they should be passing off when they are cold.