with the recent item changes riot has nerfed cleaver a bit too hard in my opinion and it feels almost impossible to match certain tanks as a spellcasting bruiser , and my question is does the community know why was the item nerfed so harshly ? i know it wasnt purely nerfed but the trade off was not worth it lets see what the trade off was :

it got 5 ad and +2 movement speed ( but now it stack instantly) and costs 100 less gold which all of these are nice by themselves but the item lost

15 ability haste and 6% shred which both are massive nerfs for an item that needs to be stacked to get a worse penetration that other items provide either instantly or better

  • PorkyMan12B
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    1 year ago

    Killing a tank should be a team effort. Not some random person going down a lane to “match a tank”, killing it in 15 seconds alone and then jobs done.

    Cleaver is meant to help you versus tanks, not kill them for you by stat checking them. In a team effort scenario, cleaver would indeed help a lot so it is good.

    • Moonless_13B
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      1 year ago

      Why the fuck should killing any champion be a team effort lol. Tank will laugh in the faces of assassins, and then rightfully crumble in the face of actual fighters who have way less team utility in exchange for raw power.

  • Lopsided_Chemistry89B
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    1 year ago

    because other last whisper items have very bad stats compared to cleaver.

    maybe this is why.

  • PraelatuzB
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    1 year ago

    They realise Riven’s buff (and soon Pantheon) was a mistake and is tuning down her single core item.

  • EvelynnEveloutB
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    1 year ago

    Fighter items are broken, the nerf is only making the item fair