Who would have thought cheating on emissions laws and divesting the North American market and saddling them with shit boxes rather than the actual nice cars they sell elsewhere would backfire!

They’ve the problem like GM used to, VW brand has to share the market with Skoda and Seat/Cupra, it’s very like old GM its Chevy, Pontiac, and Saturn shared same market.

Stellantis having so many brands under the same corporate umbrella

They would get same issue too, but most its members are trying as regional brands, they’ve their own territories. That’s reason why Peugeot finally not to return America market because they’ve to let Chrysler staying America market.

I was literally just thinking this yesterday. Audi, Lamborghini, Porsche… Those all have places in the market. They’re not supposed to be reliable. They’re supposed to be performers for people who probably aren’t going to keep them outside the warranty period. But why the fuck would any informed person buy a VW? They’re no nicer than any other consumer/economy brand, but far more expensive to own.

no longer? I’d say they were uncompetitive for at least a decade ever since little humble mazdas built better diesels than them and without cheating at that.

Maybe you should not abandon ICE cars so fast.

Don’t know about else where, but here in Australia:

Golf GTI: $56,000

Hyundai I30 N Line Premium: $36,000

Tesla Model 3: $57,000 (after gov rebates)

Don’t know what others think but I don’t see the appeal of the GTI (and I’m saying this as someone who owns a - albeit classic - Golf).

Translation: We relied too heavily on our Russian oligarch friends for our supplies and its now causing us to raise prices because their boss man is on a power trip.