I’m a psychiatrist. This is really a different content I’m bringing here motivated by the many posts about our new social score system: the behaviour score.

There is an old movie called minority report. A distopian movie where humanity trusted police to arrest before crimes happened. Believing they didn’t have to know, only the police.

There is an old poem called First they came, by Pastor Martin Niemöller. About the nazi. The link is for the holocaust memorial. The poem is about doing nothing while injustice doesn’t touch us.

How this relates to our system? We are trusting a computer system which, although it is based on human inputs, we know nothing about how it really works to define if people are “toxic” or not.

When anyone posts about the system it goes by “guys, I’m getting low and I think it is unfair” and the answers are “if the system is punishing you, it means you deserve to be punished.”

The BS should be calibrated to lower toxicity only. It’s not supposed to be treated by the community like the Chinese social score system, or the star of the jews. Its not supposed to be a scar in someone’s face that automatically deprives them of any reason.

Dota is just a game. But he who doesn’t know history is doomed to repeat it. The way we are dividing ourselves because of it goes beyond a game. “What is wrong with dota?” JUDGEMENT creates animosity. Half of dota players suffers from something in their real lifes.

So next time someone complains about their BS, even if the person doesn’t have a reason, we should hear them. Else, we risk creating a prototype of a distopian world where we trust AI for what it wasn’t meant to be.

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    People dont take dota as game, they hate each other from 1st minute ingame, 2-3 players fight for carry/mid then everyone thinks someone SHOULD play support but thats noone in team. And of course too many people care what and how others are playing and then they stop playing if some done anything they get annoyed with. People are weak mentally and they let their emotions goes off pretty easy. I do agree that report sistem and low priority is useless because people just take more hate out of it and again spread hate to positive players and create more bad behavior.

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      You summarized it very well. The problem of dota is hate and hate comes from judgement.

      People are suffering in life and they lash out in game. Others get defensive.

      I just disagree with mentally weak. Its just regular mental strength. Thats just how it works.

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    The thing is, they are heard. They receive messages from devs for their ID so they can look into it, they tell them they don’t need to do that. They post their dotabuff, they have 12 abandons in 100 games. They claim to not be toxic, they start cussing out people in their own Reddit thread who don’t agree with them.

    Show me a BS complainer and I will show you an Archon 1, pos 4 Mirana arrowing creeps, spam-pinging allies named “Swap commends” who is only interested in farming Behaviour Score in turbo. It is not fair IF people are punished unfairly. What is far more likely to happen, though, is consensus among Dota players that they ARE annoying to deal with. They may not see it, they may not feel it, but most other players do. Time and time again these people show themselves to be incapable of growth.

    Half of dota players suffers from something in their real lifes.

    This is something I can agree on. However, this doesn’t mean they get to make it anyone else’s problem. Life sucks, things go wrong, you don’t get to control every aspect of your life, but you control how you deal with that feeling. Handling this poorly doesn’t make you more of a victim of life’s circumstances.

    Also, supposed psychiatrist trying to be philosophical, basing ideas on popular media and Holocaust comparisons? I have a hard time taking you seriously.

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    from my experience you get reported for:

    1. picking hero some1 does not like
    2. doing something some1 does not like
    3. some1 does not like your name/profile picture
    4. you stomp the enemy, they report you for victory
    5. you communicate with teammates, they report you cus you told the carry to buy bkb
      yeah you should shut up and enjoy watching your carry getting chain stunned min 0 to min 60 without saying a single word, or you are reported
    6. you are core but didn’t carry the game and lost = reported
    7. you are support but didn’t perform well early game, and enemy outplayed you, you are reported as well
    8. don’t communicate = reported cus not replying
    9. communicate = reported for communication
    10. win = reported by enemy
    11. lose = reported by team

    bro its unlimited reports, feel free to report all 9 players each and every single game for no reason, actually the 11 reasons above are not required just report everyone and enjoy dota

    good luck