EDIT: A lot of you are reading into the tweet while still somehow agreeing with the overall message. No one is saying we should eliminate music programs or that we should teach toddlers about healthcare plans. The tweet is making this thing called a --checks notes-- joke, that also conveys the message that schools could teach more practical skills that young adults will need going forward.
Kids should learn about taxes and other important life lessons. However musical studies help kids a lot. It improves memory, hand eye coordination, increases grey matter in their brains, improves fine motor skills…all sorts of benefits come from learning a musical instrument. Plus once they can actually play you’ll have a live in classical jukebox.
Teenagers should learn this. Not in elementary school.
It’s also important to expose kids to a major facet of human culture. If they don’t come from a musical household, they may never get exposed to the intoxicating phenomenon of making musical sounds.
Okay but does the music have to be from a recorder? The sound makes me bleed from the eyes.
Easier to learn and more suitable for little hands
The Recorder in general isn’t a bad instrument, though. If you hear a flute from the Baroque period, it’s most likely the Recorder. It requires sophisticated technique, but since it’s cheap to make, teachers use it as a teaching method without even knowing that they use the tongue to stop their breath, or that air pressure varies depending on the pitch being made. Also, there are many types of Recorders. What the children use are Soprano recorders, which have a high pitch (duh).
Hey, at least they don’t start them on bagpipes.
A kid who complains about not learning taxes in school. Would never of paid attention in those classes in school.
Would never of
It’s “would never’ve” or “would never have”. Who wasn’t paying attention in class?
I didn’t pay attention to grammer because that’s for dorks who use the internet toooooooooooooo much
wow sick burn
WOW THANKS!!!
Being exceedingly pedantic about grammar to “own” somebody you disagree with doesn’t make you right, it just makes you an asshole.
This is barely a grammar issue and more of an ignore issue, besides it completely fits the topic this time.
Ingorance of what? Not writing perfectly 100% of the time?
And it doesn’t “fit”. They’re taking a grammatical issue and inflating it to dismiss their point and insult them. Regardless of what mistakes they did or didn’t make, everyone knew what they meant. Making it a “gotcha” doesn’t accomplish anything useful.
There’s genuinely nothing wrong with pointing out grammar in a normal context, it is obviously awful when you dismiss someone’s point over it though which they don’t do here.
That is literally what they did
It’s “would never’ve” or “would never have”. Who wasn’t paying attention in class?
The only point of making a comment like that at the end is to dismiss and shame someone for making a mistake.
Helping someone learn is usually helpful, though perhaps not always wanted. Doing so to call them stupid is not.
According to this exact logic the original commenter did the exact same thing but to the original post.
Taxes are just a really long and complicated math worksheet
The IRS gives you a 100 page step-by-step manual, and only requires addition, subtraction, multiplication and (rarely) division. For someone who just has a W-2, you fill out one field for income and do the math for the tax bracket.
Refigure your depletion deduction for the AMT. To do so, use only income and deductions allowed for the AMT when refiguring the limit based on taxable income from the property under section 613(a) and the limit based on taxable income, with certain adjustments, under section 613A(d)(1). Also, your depletion deduction for mines, wells, and other natural deposits under section 611 is limited to the property’s adjusted basis at the end of the year, as refigured for the AMT, unless you are an independent producer or royalty owner claiming percentage depletion for oil and gas wells under section 613A©.
And why* can’t we just get a pre-filled tax return and confirm it yes/no?
Because that would hurt the poor b/c only the wealthy would still hire tax experts if tax returns were pre-filled.
Naw, the current system doesn’t hurt the poor at all!
*according to lobbyists like Intuit, maker of TurboTax
I think the bigger issue is that too many of the non-poor are willing to vote against their own interests. Europeans don’t hate paying taxes, but they want it to be simple. Americans hate paying taxes, and too many of them can be conned into thinking that it’s bad if the government makes it easier.
I was taught the 140ez in school, most kids didn’t care.
I was taught budgeting in middle school where they actively taught people 3/4 of your monthly paycheck NEEDS to go to your mortgage.
I thought it was bank propaganda looking back on it.
3/4ths is definitely house poor living. There is some benefit to going as big as you can afford though since moving is a huge pain, buying a bigger better house up front can save a lot of headache and possibly money, but even then staying under 40% seems like a good idea.
The hell you were
Most people learn recorder around 8-10 years old. I don’t know why you would want to learn taxes at that age.
Absurd. We should never replace the arts with Home Economics. Two different things. Maybe less time should be spent in those Bush Era textbooks.
It’s meant to be absurd. Buried in the absurdity is a grain of truth.
The problem is, neither the arts nor home economics are valued in the education sphere and we don’t base education policies on science.
As an example, an elementary music teacher I know said “in a school year I will have seen each child for 24 hours. That’s not enough time to reach them some music theory or how to play an instrument.”
The right healthcare plan is the free one offered in another country.
Do people laugh out loud at this kind of joke? Without being judgmental, I never find myself tickled by this setup.
This isn’t really a joke though. It’s a commentary on preparedness for adulthood and the current version of the machine.
If you think it’s not a joke, you’re kidding yourself.
Did you guys not have at least basic lessons about how your country works? And were they from the same teacher who did primary school music lessons?
I had to take a “home economics” class in highschool. However, you could test out of it. I was unaware that you could do this, so I had to take it. They taught us the very basic us tax form, how to write a resume, how to write a check (yes I’m old). It was very remedial stuff that can easily be learned if you need to know it. The 1040EZ tax form is for someone with a regular job and it has a set of instructions that goes with it. In fact, all us tax forms have a separate instruction sheet unless you have a very niche problem such as repayment of unemployment income or something like that.
Well shit, our home ec just had us learn to sew and make really shitty pretzels.
Are you sure you just don’t remember the full course? Ours did sewing and cooking but also how to write a check, budget, etc. There was also a section on interpersonal relationships and a section on nutrition. We made cinnamon rolls instead of pretzels though.
In my school, what you are describing was in a personal finance class, what the parent comment is describing was called home ec. The personal finance class was required and home ec was not.
I don’t think we had a personal finance class, but if so, I didn’t take it. My home ec class covered budgeting, sewing, cooking, nutrition, interpersonal relationships, safe sex, etc. Home ec was required. We baked once and sewed one project.
We also had an elective domestic arts class that was half sewing and half cooking. The cooking portion had us make a different recipe every week. The sewing portion had us sew hoodies, pajama pants, embroidery, etc. If you didn’t take domestic arts, then you had to take CAD.
Never ever replace arts, its why most kids enjoy school. but instead, create a semester long class called life that is required every year.
- year 9, we pay bills, get paid work for the 45min classes to earn wages.
- year 10, you’re now paying bills AND trying to buy a house.
- Year 11, yeah, shit gets real: we OWN a fuckin house! and shits breaks, but you also have kids and your dumbass never went to college… oh and you somehow decide randomly you belong in WSB.
- Year 12, Retirement, learning how to live on a measly $3000 a month for $5000 of bills.
clearly, we’d reward kids for taking college levels, but also trades. but you’d learn how to buy a house, trade stocks, pay bills with what you have…
I literally ONLY remember two things from kindergarten: hot cross buns on recorder and a theatrical performance of Man in the Mirror
Over a decade ago in our high school we had a personal finance class in 1st year; we learned about tracking stocks, limited budgeting, how to fill out a check and that was really it. However, nobody cared and why should we? We couldn’t even work until 16 years old and we were 14 and you can’t get stocks until 18. If it were at around 3rd year then it would have been more relevant.
Most of this stuff is now obsolete due to technology anyway. I rarely cash in checks but all I do is just take it to cash checking. No name signing, just give them the check, get photo taken, and get the money.
Taxes is the only thing that isn’t obsolete and should be taught at some point somewhere. Sure, some of it is just copying numbers but then there’s tax deductibles and running a business that requires quarterly taxes when over $1k.
We had pretty much the same thing but at the last year of highschool and no one cared either because most of us didn’t work and those who did just spent the money on their scooter or other random shit…
Truth is, it’s better to use that time to make sure people understand the basic curriculum instead of trying to add more stuff on the pile.
To be fair, at the time you’re learning the recorder, you’re doing basic arithmetic. You gotta wait to get into advanced arithmetic before learning to do your taxes.
School also doesn’t teach you how to get dressed or wipe your ass but you still learned how to do those things.
Some things are supposed to be taught to you by your parents. There was nothing stopping any of us from sitting down with our parents and learning how to do taxes which is exactly how I learned about it.
Because first graders are really going to carry those lessons onward 🙄
I’m going to become rich and famous when I invent a recorder with a headphone socket.
What does hot cross buns mean in this context?
It’s a super basic song that people tend to learn early in music. It’s three notes and a very simple pattern.
HOT
CROSS
BUNS
HOT
CROSS
BUNS
ONE-A-PENNY TWO-A-PENNY
HOT
CROSS
BUNS
When I was in school, that was just the first song they’d teach us on the recorder so I assume it’s meant to be the teacher pushing on with the lesson instead of listening to the student.
It’s one of the first songs taught on a recorder.
“Theirs not to make reply / Theirs not to reason why / Theirs but to do.” (you don’t learn the last two words of that poem until later, long after you are done with school)
