Me. And Eco. You just can’t let it go, can you, that someone disagrees with your precious ideology.
Lol. Yes trying to return to an imagined past and having an intellectual tradition are the same thing /s
I never said that. I said that you think that all truth has already been revealed by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and possibly Mao. At least one of which you misread but that’s another topic.
You said I was rejecting modernism by rejecting liberal democracy, which is literally rooted in enlightenment ideas. I was saying you are not making sense, because you are saying I’m rejecting modernism when I’m rejecting enlightenment era ideology.
You are rejecting the rational development that started with the Enlightenment, aka modernism. Nazism and Marxism-Leninism are both part of that and reject it in their own ways, in a sense anticipating post-modernism. Neither are theologies or whatever, both reject democracy, both reject actually scientific socialism, the proper rational strain to follow, aka Anarchism. Something something complexity theory I’ll let you do your own research can’t be arsed to feed that to a tankie.
Have you even ever read about “dictatorship of capital”?
How’s the GINI coefficient where you’re from? Maybe that’s the reason. Over where I am, struggle-wise, the labour aristocracy is actually kinda more of a headache than capital because capital is so easy to see.
Also again you are misreading the 14 points as some litmus test.
What is the proper application in your mind then, pray tell? Can you explain it?
There’s a reason I said “one would be sufficient for fascism to coalesce around”, not “one is sufficient for fascism”. Otherwise post-modernism would be fascist which makes no sense. At the very least you need an ideological group which corrals around a specific instantiation of those points, a particular way to gloss over the inherent contradictions, really, and engages in political action.
Me. And Eco. You just can’t let it go, can you, that someone disagrees with your precious ideology.
Eco claims disagreement was treason in the USSR? What supporting evidence does he use?
said that you think that all truth has already been revealed by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and possibly Mao.
Bwahahahahaha this is really funny, literally reading a book on expanding marxist concepts into the sphere of transness
Marxism is a living intellectual tradition about ruthless critique, which includes of past leaders and thinkers.
You are rejecting the rational development that started with the Enlightenment, aka modernism. Nazism and Marxism-Leninism are both part of that and reject it in their own ways, in a sense anticipating post-modernism. Neither are theologies or whatever, both reject democracy, both reject actually scientific socialism, the proper rational strain to follow, aka Anarchism. Something something complexity theory I’ll let you do your own research can’t be arsed to feed that to a tankie.
Lol, sure, you can define words to mean whatever you want.
On democracy- literally every socialist state has more democracy than bourgeois democracies, because the people are (imperfectly) represented by politicians, the politicians are not there to serve capital.
both reject actually scientific socialism, the proper rational strain to follow, aka Anarchism.
Tell me how your anarchist projects in Catalonia and Ukraine were actually based anti-authoritarians when they did labor and concentration camps. Or when Ukraine was basically a military dictatorship, and enabled kulaks to massacre Jewish people.
Oh, or tell me about your more modern projects (the ones that actually claim to be anarchists, not indigenous resistors in Central America who don’t claim to be socialist or anarchist)
"Anarchism is a coat that only leaks when it is wet. "
How’s the GINI coefficient where you’re from? Maybe that’s the reason. Over where I am, struggle-wise, the labour aristocracy is actually kinda more of a headache than capital because capital is so easy to see.
Wait, so your argument is that the labor aristocracy actually controls your country? You are responding to me asking you if you could define dictatorship of capital.
There’s a reason I said “one would be sufficient for fascism to coalesce around”, not “one is sufficient for fascism”.
Then what youre saying holds no water? Sufficient to coalesce around isn’t the same as a definition of.
Also Marxism doesn’t really fit any single point in the definition.
Eco claims disagreement was treason in the USSR? What supporting evidence does he use?
I don’t even. He wrote about fascism in general, not about specific regimes short of Italy which he uses for some anecdotes, unsurprising given that he’s Italian.
The rest of what you wrote makes just as little sense, so goodbye. Talk to me when you’re grown up.
Me. And Eco. You just can’t let it go, can you, that someone disagrees with your precious ideology.
I never said that. I said that you think that all truth has already been revealed by Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and possibly Mao. At least one of which you misread but that’s another topic.
You are rejecting the rational development that started with the Enlightenment, aka modernism. Nazism and Marxism-Leninism are both part of that and reject it in their own ways, in a sense anticipating post-modernism. Neither are theologies or whatever, both reject democracy, both reject actually scientific socialism, the proper rational strain to follow, aka Anarchism. Something something complexity theory I’ll let you do your own research can’t be arsed to feed that to a tankie.
How’s the GINI coefficient where you’re from? Maybe that’s the reason. Over where I am, struggle-wise, the labour aristocracy is actually kinda more of a headache than capital because capital is so easy to see.
What is the proper application in your mind then, pray tell? Can you explain it?
There’s a reason I said “one would be sufficient for fascism to coalesce around”, not “one is sufficient for fascism”. Otherwise post-modernism would be fascist which makes no sense. At the very least you need an ideological group which corrals around a specific instantiation of those points, a particular way to gloss over the inherent contradictions, really, and engages in political action.
Eco claims disagreement was treason in the USSR? What supporting evidence does he use?
Bwahahahahaha this is really funny, literally reading a book on expanding marxist concepts into the sphere of transness
Marxism is a living intellectual tradition about ruthless critique, which includes of past leaders and thinkers.
Lol, sure, you can define words to mean whatever you want.
On democracy- literally every socialist state has more democracy than bourgeois democracies, because the people are (imperfectly) represented by politicians, the politicians are not there to serve capital.
Tell me how your anarchist projects in Catalonia and Ukraine were actually based anti-authoritarians when they did labor and concentration camps. Or when Ukraine was basically a military dictatorship, and enabled kulaks to massacre Jewish people.
Oh, or tell me about your more modern projects (the ones that actually claim to be anarchists, not indigenous resistors in Central America who don’t claim to be socialist or anarchist)
"Anarchism is a coat that only leaks when it is wet. "
Wait, so your argument is that the labor aristocracy actually controls your country? You are responding to me asking you if you could define dictatorship of capital.
Then what youre saying holds no water? Sufficient to coalesce around isn’t the same as a definition of.
Also Marxism doesn’t really fit any single point in the definition.
I don’t even. He wrote about fascism in general, not about specific regimes short of Italy which he uses for some anecdotes, unsurprising given that he’s Italian.
The rest of what you wrote makes just as little sense, so goodbye. Talk to me when you’re grown up.
Ah, so we are at the part where the pigeon shits on the chess board, declares victory, and flies off.