First of all: I don’t have anything against Wayland. I just wanna play Minecraft occasionally.
I am running Fedora with KDE on some HP workstation with an Nvidia 2060 FE. I am using the proprietary drivers. With the next release of Fedora (and KDE), Wayland will be the only supported Display Manager (as of my understanding). I tried switching to Wayland, but I get some weird black stuttering in Minecraft making it completely unplayable. The bad thing is that with my friends GPU, a GTX 1050, it worked just fine. On my Laptop with just the integrated Graphics too.
Have you got any tips for me? I neither want to switch the distro nor the desktop enviroment, as I’m happy with how it is. I could imagine buying a used amd gpu, but I dont really want to spend a lot of money.
For now, I am just waiting and hoping they’re having it fixed in the release. ** Edit:** thanks for all the help. @Pantherina@feddit.des solution, forcing it to use xwayland made it better, but then i discovered that if I’m in fullscreen, it works perfectly fine, also without xwayland. It seems like a really dumb solution, and i’m not quite happy with it, but hey, if it works, don’t touch it.
tl;dr: In fullscreen it works just fine
You don’t have to worry. The folks at fedora have decided that the X11 session will remain in fedora 40 so you will be able to use X11 if you still face issues in wayland.
Edit : I was not clear enough. Want I mean to say is that the kwin-x11 and other required packages will be part of the fedora repo and people can just download them to enable the plasma-X11 session
Where did you see that? Are you sure you are not confusing it with fedora gnome?
At today’s FESCo meeting, we agreed on the following proposal:
AGREED: KDE packages which reintroduce support for X11 are allowed in the main Fedora repositories, however they may not be included by default on any release-blocking deliverable (ISO, image, etc.). The KDE SIG should provide a notice before major changes, but is not responsible for ensuring that these packages adapt. Upgrades from F38 and F39 will be automatically migrated to Wayland. (+5, 0, -1)
For additional clarification: this means that all users performing upgrades MUST be migrated to the Wayland session. They then MAY opt-in to the X11 session by installing a package for that purpose. We are explicitly not providing detailed technical implementation requirements here, but we expect all parties to follow the spirit of this decision when making technical decisions.
Roll back your drivers to 535 if you’re on 545. 545 is broken
Is 545 still the latest? That release was so awful it made me completely drop Nvidia and pick up an AMD card. Fixed so many issues
Yep. 550 is in beta but it’s unclear if it fixes things
Wow, I’m glad I switched back in early December. What a nightmare it would be to still have those problems
I’m curious how awful exactly. Been using 545 since it was released (on Arch) and except for frame drop on X11, on Wayland it’s working flawlessly and I’m even playing games on it!
When I tried it games would flicker like crazy with black frames
Like the other commenter I also had wildly flickering frames. Overwatch in particular was stuttering back to some previously buffered frame when the framerate was either below or above a sweet spot. I was also having issues with KDE Plasma bars that I assumed was a KDE issue, but they went away with the new GPU with no other software changes than swapping drivers. I was on a GTX 1080 which was still going strong with the games I played
It is probably your NVIDIA driver. Version 545 has this kind of problem. Rolling back to 535 solved it for me.
Switching over to the discrete GPU work in the efi/bios might help. Optimus (the driver that chooses between discrete and integrated) is known to be a steaming pile.
I’m having the exact same situation with a 2060 super particularly badly when CPU spikes but not exclusively
Full screen hasn’t worked for me, but that’s probably because I’m using hyprland. Forcing it to run in xwayland solved the issue for you?
It didn’t really solved it,it just felt like it was a lot better.
Ah. So no solution in sight til Nvidia fixes their buggy driver then?
At least I know I’m not the only one getting this
Have you tried temporarily disabling the Compositor with Shift+Alt+F12? This fixed a lot of my graphical issues in games under Wayland with an Nvidia card.
That shortcut does nothing on Wayland. What you’re experiencing is either placebo, or you’re not using Wayland
You’re correct, it’s actually a KDE shortcut. My misunderstanding.
In my case it did help, so not a placebo. Given that OP is also using KDE, it may still help.
Yes, it is a KDE shortcut, a kwin_x11 shortcut to be more specific. It’s not a thing with kwin_wayland, and so it most certainly did not help or do anything for you - unless you’re not actually using the Wayland session of course.
Ah, gotcha. I’m not new to Linux in general, but I’m very new to running it as a desktop (as in, the last few weeks). The last time I really tried was well before Wayland was even a thing. I’ve been distro hopping a lot to find what I like, and didn’t even realize I wasn’t using Wayland this time, oops. That certainly explains why it worked for me.
Learn something new every day. Thanks!
is there a way you could make it use the integrated GPU on your workstation?
I don’t have any
Might help to disable glamor
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/1317This fixes the problem but it drops my framerate to about 10 per second.
Then it sounds like you can either wait for nvidia to fix their buggy drivers (have you tried the beta drivers too?) or sell your 2060 fe and buy an amd gpu that will play much nicer with kde wayland.
A post criticising wayland? Blasphemy!
Yeah, notice how it’s still up, people are having a rational discussion, and nobody is getting annoyed with anybody. Unlike whatever it is you’re doing.
