Imagine your friend that does not know anything about linux, don’t you think this would make them not install the firefox flatpak and potentially think that linux is unsafe?
I ask this because I believe we must be careful and make small changes to welcome new users in the future, we have to make them as much comfortable as possible when experimenting with a new O.S
I believe this warning could have a less alarming design, saying something like “This app can use elevated permissions. What does this mean?” with the “What does this mean?” text as a clickable URL that shows the user that this may cause security risks. I mean, is kind of a contradiction to have “verified” on the app and a red warning saying “Potentially unsafe”, the user will think “well, should I trust this or not??”
This should have been much more well thought out The wording, image, buttons, specific wording for each page.
They really screwed the pooch.
Another 4-6 months minimum before release. But quarterly numbers must be met.
Yes, but also… It’s true. Browsers are the number one way folks get viruses.
It’s not specific to browsers, but to every flatpak that is verified and has the potentially unsafe warning.
Just reminding folks that just because it’s flatpak’d, doesn’t mean it’s sandboxed. But they probably should add some general click here for more info.
What does ‘user device access’ mean?
Maybe access to connected devices (e.g. your computer components or the phone you have plugged in to your computer)
pretty standard compared to OSs like Android and iOS. i think the mobile OSs, at least recently, have done better at this; they don’t ask for permission until they need it. want to import bookmarks? i need file system access for that. want to open your webcam? i need device access. doing it all upfront leads to all the problems mentioned in this thread: unclear as to why, easy to forget what access you’ve given, no ability to deny a subset of options, etc.
Users should be afraid of the malware that is default firefox. Why do you think so many people use forks?
as opposed to chrome?
Chrome being worse than Firefox doesn’t make Firefox’s default telemetry, adware, and DoH to cloudflare good. When the bar is Chrome, essentially any browser passes.
Would you mind explaining?
Telemetry you can’t easily disable (requires modifying about:config, can change on update), Glean (nastier than anything in chrome), DoH to cloudflare, pocket (adware), Anonym.
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/mozillas-original-sin/ mozilla “saving the web”. If you want to save the web, use something like qutebrowser, luakit, or falkon with drm compiled out.
https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/mozilla-is-an-advertising-company-now/