• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    want to see a westerner have a full on tantrum? Suggest to them that their actions are not always morally neutral

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      4 months ago

      I know it’s a fun joke but human meat, especially modern humans, is pretty nasty tasting. It’s why sharks usually only take one bite.

      Maneaters like tigers and lions still find us disgusting but they are lazy and can easily get in the habit of preferring the easier prey.

      Oily and bitter mostly, its all the processed fats in our diets.

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    4 months ago

    Fastest way to get anyone offended is to even remotely imply they could change the way they eat… Jesus y’all are vitriolic WTF?

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      4 months ago

      I don’t think anyone really get’s offended over it. It’s more like being pestered in by one of those clipboard carrying solicitors.

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        But… The post is already encouraging people to eat meat. Like this post is literally designed to pester people who don’t eat meat, but then the meat eating people got mad anyway

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          But… The post is already encouraging people to eat meat.

          I think you misunderstand the post then.

          The post is pointing out the hypocracy that killing an animal for pleasure is generally regarded as wrong, except when it comes to the sense of taste.

          It’s very much a pro-vegan post.

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            Oh, I honestly just assumed the “but bacon tho” title was completely unironic. I still see shit like that all the time

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      4 months ago

      Mosquitos have been causing humans harm since forever. If the vegan idea is too reduce harm then maybe vegans should be obligated to kill the sadistic little fuckers

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    *please talk to a dietitian or your doctor, if possible, before drastically changing your diet

    I’ve already had to drop dairy out of my diet, so I figure that going vegan isn’t necessarily that much of a stretch anymore. It’s not because of moral or ethical reasons, though: it’s entirely because handling raw meat squicks me out. I currently have to keep up the charade because my family are kind of dicks about it…it sucks.

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      handling raw meat squicks me out.

      Me too, keeping a box of disposable food service gloves in the kitchen fixed this cheaply. It may not help you the same but it made food prep bearable for me.

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    4 months ago

    Pork has no fucking business being that damn tasty.

    Its like its begging to be cooked.

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    yeah, yummy meat. I like it a lot. Sometimes i salt it than dry it myself, and god, does it taste delicious. I might be bothered by the cruelty of all this meat industry, but guess what, if i were to choose, i’d rather be a farm pig. Anything actually that does not comprehend the cruelty of this reality, and i’m not talking about farms here. Also, unlike most of us they go away quickly.

    P.S. fyi, latest studies show that plants might also feel the pain. Sorry to disappoint you guys, but it seems like we are just doomed to bring more suffering in this world. You better find a way to cope with this before it became more researched.

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      Note that an estimated 90% of global farm animals are factory farmed, and are fed monocrops like corn and soy that humans can eat. It’s about 10 times more efficient to eat the plants directly than the animals due to Trophic Levels, so if you’re worried about plants feeling pain you’d reduce their pain by eating them directly instead of their inefficient middlemen.

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        good point. i don’t kill them though, silly, there are people to do it for me.

        Also, unlike us, animals eat literal grass which does not require all kinds of fossil fuel machines, tons of earth-polluting pesticides, you know, stuff like that. Also we don’t need to exterminate trees in order to be able to herd them, you know, that long things sticking up from the ground, producing oxygen, green all the spring, summer, and even autumn, unlike wheat and stuff.

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      I really don’t see how they are strawmen. The vast majority of people do not need meat, the reason they eat meat is because it tastes good. Taste is merely one of our senses, why is it ok to kill to enjoy the taste, but not ok to enjoy the sound or sight? That’s what the meme is getting at.

      Nature playing out

      Why is this an argument, when it isn’t an acceptable reason for anything else? Rape, murder, thievery are all things that most people see as wrong, despite them happening in nature plenty.

      One of the things that makes humans unique is our ability to consider logic and mortality beyond what happens in nature, because nature certainly isn’t perfect.

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          I of course don’t know what any specific person needs, but knowing what the vast majority of people need is trivial, it’s basic science.

          Please stop arguing is such bad faith in every response you make.

          • KⒶMⒶLⒶ WⒶLZ 2Ⓐ24@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            i’m stating facts, and you concede those facts, and then claim i’m arguing in bad faith. you don’t know what that means: your accusation of bad faith is, itself bad faith.

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              You are stating strawmen: facts with no relevance to the argument presented, which you then point to and refuse to address the actual argument.

              I never claimed to know what any individual needs, but you have started it as a fact as if that is at all relevant. It’s not, because I never claimed it. I claimed that I know that the vast majority of people need, based on basic science and statistics. If you have fact which actually argued against that, then please go ahead. But unrelated facts posing as arguments are strawman arguments, and are bad faith.

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          It might be a fact, but it’s being used as an argument to make a specific point. These things are not exclusive.

          And my question stands, why is it being used as an argument when it has no relevance?