I will throw the “Bryce is a bust” crowd a bone… but keep reading before you spike the ball.

To some it is clear that C. J. Stroud is the better QB. In fact, his performance has convinced many that Bryce is simply a bust and not worthy of an NFL roster.

While I’m not prepared to go that far, I am willing to admit that I was completely sold on Stroud after watching him play against Georgia in the 2022 Peach Bowl. I watched a mature and poised QB dissect Georgia’s defense full of NFL caliber talent. He displayed a perfect balance between using his mobility to make plays and restraining the urge to run to make a play downfield with his arm. It was pretty impressive. After watching that game I was convinced that Stroud would be, at the very least, a very good NFL QB (which is saying a lot).

Fast forward to today and Stroud has lived up to those expectations. I stop short of saying “and then some” because the sample size (IMHO) is still too small. The one issue I have is not that people are singing the praises of Stroud (he deserves them, even with the superior supporting cast… he has capitalized on it tremendously). The issue I see is that people are comparing Stroud to Young as if all things are equal. They are currently not.

Whatever the reason, the two teams are not performing the same. Of course, Stroud is contributing greatly to the success of the Texans team. It is a symbiotic relationship. Stroud feeds off of the success of his surrounding roster and coaching staff, and vice-versa. If you translate that reasoning to the Young situation, you have a recipe for disaster for a rookie QB (no matter the QB).

The comparisons are also illogical and irrational. From the “Texas sharpshooter fallacy,” the “red herring fallacy,” “appeal to emotion,” and even the “shotgun argument” fallacy… this sub is littered with irrational and illogical takes, all in an effort to assert that Bryce must be the wrong pick or a bust. If you have any desire to engage with objective reality, none of this is helpful (even for a “fan-atic”).

The (objective) fact remains that Bryce needs time before we can declare that. Stroud’s success has no impact on Bryce’s failures (they are not competing against one another). What is obvious, though, is the emotional toll it has taken on the Panthers fanbase. I get it. Panthers football sucks. Heck, Charlotte professional sports sucks. The Hornets still suck. If you’re a Duke or Carolina football fan, you even have this past weekend’s loss (Duke) and consistently lackluster performance (Carolina) to grieve over. It’s a tough sports time for many of us. That said, what benefit is there in perpetuating irrational takes (ignoring reality and reason itself) because of your emotional ties to the Panthers & Stroud?

If you still believe they should’ve chosen Stroud, great. I’m not mad at you. I think the Panthers choosing Stroud would have been a good move. I also still think the same about Young. I’m of the opinion that they are both great prospects and could very well be interchangeable because they have different strengths.

All I ask is that as we discuss it, can we get along and be reasonable? Remember sub rule #1 “Remember the human.” Remember the humanity of one another and of the players we are discussing. I think that is an important perspective. This is what actually drives my view of this situation - I consider the humanity of you all and of Bryce and C. J. I’m not prepared to throw Bryce away because, historically, even the best QB’s take more than one season to develop (because they are human and need to adapt and grow). I’m not prepared to write Stroud into the HOF just yet because he is also human, and he’s presenting chapter 1 of a library of film for defensive coordinators to study.

I could go on, but just know that I don’t think you’re crazy if you think Stroud would’ve been the better choice. Just don’t let that consideration, in this moment, drive you crazy.

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    1 year ago

    I’m so sick of the narrative that stroud has a “superior supporting cast”

    Nico Collins, Rookie Tank Dell, Noah brown

    No one. NO ONE in the off-season thought this wr Corp was good or even serviceable. Many were in agreement it was one of the worst in the league along with the panthers.

    When stroud was drafted, it was pretty much unanimous that they have something to look forward to and build on, but this year will be tough for them.

    Stroud has elevated everyone around him. That’s what a great qb does. He proved it in college and he keeps proving it in the NFL.

    Yes, coaching has alot to do with his success vs Bryce, but this narrative that stroud has better talent around him is bullshit and needs to stop. He has made them better. Something Bryce Young has not done.

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      1 year ago

      Thank you. If Mills is still the QB of this team then the Texans are right at the bottom of the league with the Panthers, Cardinals, and Patriots. The Texans weren’t a “QB away” kind of team, they are still a receiving corps, run game, d-line, and linebacker corps away from being a decent roster.

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    I think Bryce just doesn’t know what to do with this dogshit passing game. You can’t be innovative and create plays in real-time if your WRs simply run at the nearest defender and then make no effort to get open. Couple that with our pass pro issues and idk what any QB could do in the situation. It’s just an offensively bad situation.

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    1 year ago

    Texans fan here, I’d really like to see Carolina move the pocket more with Bryce instead of just having him as a sitting duck in the pocket. The other thing that’s been surprising to me is his lack of feel and stepping away from pressure in the pocket to buy time/completions. That was supposed to be one thing he was good at coming out of college and from what I’ve seen he’s struggled avoiding pressure.