I know I’m complaining but the level of complaining is ridiculous. Now jack is in the crosshairs!? Personally, the raps are playing about as well as I expected but my main interest is in Scottie and he’s greatly exceeded my expectations so I’m slightly more optimistic overall than pessimistic.

Scrolling thru this convo is ridiculous. People complaining that they domt wanna watch the team - DONT WATCH THEN!

Yeah, we are a career.480 club and rn we are .444. Fans have got used to .600 ball and now they expect it. B-ball is fun to watch. I like 905 too. The last two games have been frustrating but the meltdown here is out of control. I was upset that we got embarrassed by the magic and celts and played poorly v blazers but losing is part of the game. Theres too many whiny, know it all brats that expect perfection. They must come from privileged bc they act entitled. Sorry for generalizations and judgement but it’s annoying at this point. Scottie is shooting nearly 40% and looks like a stud. This is a much bigger focus for me than beating the nets. Theres plenty of positive storylines to cheer for here. The hyperbole that we are worse than the pistons is ridiculous.

Two frustrating games man

Weird hearing Alvin call jyd by his birth name

Thad mAkes $8m for nothing. Precious is terrible, why not use Thad as small ball 5?

Mcdaniels and Boucher remind me of the game pick up sticks

Precious is uncanny reminder of Joey graham

Its a one possession game but feels like a loss

Trade precious for the corpse of Tristan Thompson 😂

If we have to rely on Malachi for an extended stretch of games we are cooked.

Thad and temple on the sideline got that old man bond

Game of runs

I wouldn’t trade OG for lavine straight up

I’m still salty about how shit we played against the magic recently. Reminding myself of the tross for Serge trade helps.

What do u think of jaden Ivey or is there some other guard that could fill in for Dennis long term? I’m not sure Jaden is the guy but I haven’t watched him closely.

My tinfoil clown hat says that raps win when jack calls the game. Anyone got a stat for tsn v Sportsnet.

Norm came out as a senior. Gary has been in the league for awhile. I agree with you that guys can change and growth is not linear but everyone is different too. Just bc norm panned out, doesn’t mean Gary will. Look at Boucher, he’s improved some aspects of his game but his shot is still ugly af.

No one is really answering your question so I will respond briefly. First, advanced stats for defense are not necessarily accurate and take a long time to stabilize. That said, his rebounding and steals as counting stats and % are not great. His dws is not great for his career and dropped this yr. His dbpm is a career negative and he’s on par with that number this yr. I’m not gonna dig deeper into other advanced stats like drpm, etc. I’d suggest you ask guys that have access to more advanced stats and use it regularly as part of their criticism, like Blake, Dan Hackett and Samson. I will say that his stats bear out my eye test - he’s not really a huge negative like greivis but he’s also not a positive defender in ways that Fred and Kyle could be either.

Sign Rudy gay and trade him to Sacramento for a bench.