… We could somehow turn Tobi and everything from the Harden trade (or swap some of those pieces with pieces we had) for both OG and Levine?
Would Maxey - Levine - OG - Someone (Roco/Batum/Oubre?)- Embiid + whatever is left of the bench be good enough?
Don’t focus on how it gets done (although I think the total value moved works). Just, if that was the “last big move”, do you think it would get us there?
There no one is the NBA with the name Levine. His name is LaVine
Oops, I misspelled someone’s name… Pack it up folks!.. Internet is gonna be down all day to fix this one.
The problem is, can we resign OG and then sign Maxey? Does that actually work with the cap? Even if so, the luxury tax would probably be too high for Josh Harris.
I’m pretty certain that it works with the cap (I’m not 1000% sure because there’s extra restrictions for going over the 2nd apron now. But it should be fine). And Josh would have to be okay with the tax before he signed off on the move/moves anyway. So I would say all of that being a “Yes” is baked into the hypothetical.
I think you could probably make a trade for both tbh. Lavine isn’t playing that well this season and his contract is bad. I think just Tobias and that okc pick we got for harden may do it…
Then for OG Prob would have to give up morris springer, sixers first, clippers first and at least one swap
If both teams are being reasonable (big “if” for the Raptors), I agree that it’s doable. That’s why I’m asking. If that could be the move, is it a good enough “last move” to make us the 3rd team in the “Celtics and Bucks are the favorites in the East” conversation? Would you look at that top of the roster and say, “That top 4 stacks up to what the Celtics and Bucks have”?
How would you feel if we stopped trade speculation and just enjoyed this current group of Sixers, and if Morey decides to make a trade we then support that latest version of the Sixers?
nah
I’ll be honest it’s hard for me to be lavine because I’m not sure he’s going to understand he’s a third option some nights
Thank you for actually participating in the spirit of the exercise.
So you think it won’t fit because Lavine won’t be comfortable as option 3 like Tobi clearly hasn’t been comfortable as option 4?.. Do you think that him being option 2 for 18 minutes a night when either Maxey or Embiid is on the bench (and primary initiator in the non-Maxey minutes) is enough for him to be comfortable?
How would Hou fe if….we could turn Tobi and everything from the Harden trade into KD and Booker?
Don’t focus on how it gets done. I like to dream big
How would Hou fe if….we could turn Tobi and everything from the Harden trade into KD and Booker?
Don’t focus on how it gets done. I like to dream big
That’s not even on the same level.
OG is going to be a free agent. It could make sense for the Raptors to trade him for something instead of risking him walking for nothing. And the Bulls need to start a rebuild. So trading Lavine makes sense for them… The biggest holdup is Masai accepting reasonable compensation for OG. The total value of what we can send out is fair for what those teams can expect to get, if they’re being reasonable.
Tobi and everything from the Harden trade for both OG and Lavine?
You seen our bench play when we are missing Batum and Oubre right?
No way anyone really thinks trading away our depth is a good idea. We have went through this for years, having no bench and losing every game in non Embiid minutes…
LaVine is so inconsistent I just don’t believe he’s the right piece and Masai will ask for the world + the moon for OG - if we want him we get him as a free agent in the off season.
I consider Tobias Harris to be the better player than OG even at SF, so that’s a downgrade. Maybe in 2 years when Harris is a bit older and OG is in his prime that will be different. Until then, sending out Tobias for OG Isa meet loss.
Now Zach Lavine could make their offense really potent. The main question is how Zach would perform in an off ball role. He has never been asked to play off ball in his career, so it is a big adjustment. If he can make that adjustment then they would much improved.
Now, overall, I believe there are other moves that you can make that build a better team. I’d try and target players with cap hits beyond this year that allow you to fit them and Tobias Harris.
I consider Tobias Harris to be the better player than OG even at SF, so that’s a downgrade.
I could see the argument that it’s a downgrade from 3rd option Tobi, but I’m assuming Morey wants to make a trade that would make Tobi option 4 again (unless it sends him out). Is 4th option Tobi better than OG, when their offensive output is similar, but OG is a better defender and a natural 4th option (although supposedly he doesn’t think that)?
Now, overall, I believe there are other moves that you can make that build a better team. I’d try and target players with cap hits beyond this year that allow you to fit them and Tobias Harris.
I don’t necessarily disagree with this. But I’m trying to think like Daryl, which means I, Daryl Morey, want a bigger star than Tobi, whether that costs me Tobi or moves him back down the pecking order.
I think Lavine’s athleticism on offense is a strong factor we’ve been missing from our starting lineups for years, but Tobi is as consistent as it gets and has been good to great on defense for over a year now
Tobias won’t go off for 40 ever, but the consistency he provides while being an ironman is way more important than an extra ‘star’ that we have zero clue how he’ll mesh with Embiid and Maxey. I think building around 3 guys that have played together for years now is a far better path forward
I mean, fair enough… But I think I framed this wrong. I’m more saying “Morey is probably going to make a big trade for a guy who’s more of a star than Tobi, which will probably either send Tobi out or bring back bad Tobi by making him option 4. So would getting these two guys be enough in your opinion, if he could manage it?”