I don’t get the AOC hate. I mean I understand minor frustrations with him but I feel like a lot of people want to trash him so quick. Like let the dude cook and I think we could have a solid qb. I think with AP and Hardegree he could really fine tune and tweak his few flaws. I think he could be the real deal just get him a solid backup but I think a lot of us fans are sleeping on my boy. He’s been holding his own, especially with so much change during his rookie year. End rant. Stop the raider hate.
It’s not hate to not like a player or to criticise his performance. Maybe rather than objecting to it you could make a case to keep him. Not this coach speak ‘fine tune’ and ‘real deal’ talk. What do you think he offers as a starting QB in 2024? Like actually get into the weeds here.
We’re not moving off him this year but looking at the games he’s played so far it’s been underwhelming. He’s had two good quarters of offence and they both came against the Giants.
He is overthrowing his receivers, he is holding the ball too long and not going through his progressions quickly. He also isn’t good rolling out of the pocket.
He looked bad against the Jets and while they are a good defence their own incredibly shit offence did mean we had opportunities to wear them out (and eventually JJ broke off that big run to set up our TD play).
Today he looked lost and while I believe Miami have been a somewhat underrated defence AOC was gifted great starting field position by our defence and he didn’t do anything with it. And before you blame the play calling, once they opened the passing game up that’s when he was overthrowing balls, putting it danger and turning it over. The conservative play calling may have been to try to limit mistakes.
As for being a rookie, so? He’s 3-6 TD to INTs, that’s shit no matter when you do it. Tommy DeVito, the meme he beat, is 6-3 TD to INT and the Giants are a much worse team than we are. Tyson Bagent currently has a season completion percentage of 65.7 and 3 TD to INTs. Aidan only has a 62.1 completion percentage and he has Tae to throw to. Bagent also has a better season passer rating (71.4 vs 70.6, both bad but yikes).
So no, weren’t not sleeping on him. He looks like backup come third string guy.
He’s also 25, he’s the same age as Justin Herbert, heck he’s only a year younger than Sam Darnold and he’s two years older than Brock Purdy.
We’re not going to cut him but today was the first time he played a complete team which can compete in all 3 phases.
He’s got the Chiefs twice, the Vikings (you want a diamond in the rough, Josh Dobbs), Colts (Minshew is trying to make the case he can start somewhere next season) and the chargers and donkeys. He needs to win some (half) of these games. He needs to win 5 if we’re thinking about playoffs.
These are the test games. If he looks like he did the last two weeks? We’re trading up for a QB because we we’ve shackled to mediocrity at the position for way too long.
This was said last week, although not as thorough.
Its kinda hate inasmuch as its unfair to judge him in toto right now when he’s still developing, with only a couple actual starts on his resume. Saying the mistakes he’s making now define who he’s going to be forever is simply not true.
If by the end of the season he’s still making the same mistakes and not showing any growth, then you can start to make those criticisms. But almost no one is going to immediately jump in and be an NFL QB1 right out of the box, in the scenario he was in
Doesn’t really matter when he has no pass protection.
Neither do the other two I compared him too. Neither does Zach Wilson.
We’re going to start him for the rest of the season but we have no obligation to him going into next season.
Jesus Christ. This dude knows fucking football.