mark was getting clobbered by fucking maulers 3 episodes ago now he’s able to beat a full grown soldier viltrumite that’s been conquering worlds for millennia just because he “stopped holding back”. Even Nolan who got hospitalized by the guardians while soloing them, only suffered a cut on his head fighting THREE viltrumites!!! Just makes them look weak in comparison. I feel like they shouldn’t even have any chance winning that battle at all, not alone surviving in better condition than against way weaker foes

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    I guess you missed the part where a Viltrumite broke Nolan’s back while holding his own guts

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    I do think that Thula (the female viltrimute) was holding back and not really trying as hard as she could have. Reason being, the viltrimutes never have opponents on their level, so when they do they enjoy it. For example, when Mark finally got a good hit on her, she went “finally”. And if you look at Thula when Mark was holding her up by her hair, she had nearly no visible damage on her while Mark was beaten, bruised, and bleeding from many areas on his body. She then smiled and revealed she was faking it as she stabbed Mark. So I do think Thula was just toying with Mark rather than full on trying.

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    I mean, even if Mark landed that last punch we have no idea if he would have won that fight. Mark was all fucked up while the woman only had a few scratches.

    And the show makes a really good point that if you get jumped, you are fucked.

    Nolan gets jumped by the Guardians, Mark by the Maulers, Alien (although he had no chance of winning) could at least have landed a punch if it was 1v1. Atom Eve got jumped by her brothers as well didn’t she?

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    I think you also forgot how Nolan completely destroyed a planet in a matter of seconds.

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    Yeah, they really fucked the power scaling imo. Mark and Nolan have both been on extreme ends of the spectrum . That or the guardians and immortal got a VERY serious power buff.

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    I like the idea that when Mark stops holding back he becomes a significantly more effective fighter. But I don’t like the idea that he basically neutralized a seasoned Viltrumite warrior after he stopped holding back. He only “lost” the fight because he hesitated to kill her.

    It’s just poor planning by the writers. It will only lessen the impact of some big moments in the future. He should have categorically lost that 1v1 and shouldn’t have reached a position where he even had the chance to kill her.

    It’s not the end of the world but if this is the direction they are going in then Mark should never struggle against regular villains ever again. It would be inconsistent.

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    Bruh what? Mark didn’t win. He was losing, then took the upper hand, then lost. He was never in a “checkmate” position. Even when he had her by the ponytail she was totally free, she just paused to see what he would do—whether he would really go for the kill or if he was still ““weak””.

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    remember when mark moved like the flash to turn off the light before sex with amber?

    yeah, he is DEFINATELY holding back.

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      Yh, and he’s a 17 year old half blood. You don’t need that many braincells to know full blooded thousands of year old world conquering viltrumites move way faster lmao

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      Speed does not equal strength. And that said, full-grown Viltrumites are faster than Mark.

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      That’s relative to ambers perspective though isn’t it?

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    I agree with you but by omnimans logic if mark holding back, he definitely could’ve killed the maulers.

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      I don’t think it should matter if he holds back or not! These are 1000 year old full blooded viltrumite warriors mark shouldn’t stand a chance at all

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        Comic Spoilers: >! Mark’s little brother, who’s established to be weaker than Mark, was able to rip the Maulers apart like wet tissue paper when he was still a child!<

        So Mark definitely could have taken the Maulers if he wasn’t holding back.

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          That even proves my point more, how are wet tissues beating mark in a pool of his own blood? Why tf does it matter if you hold back against wet tissues? He was holding back that’s why they could pin him and beat him? Do you even know what holding back means? How tf are you the one getting beaten to death and you’re holding back? If that’s the case that’s very very stupid, you don’t have to kill someone to not get killed tf, and again they shouldn’t be able to damage him like you said they’re wet tissues, he should stand there while they try to harm him and he should take 0 damage, you don’t “hold back” durability

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          Lmao he literally beat her tf are you even talking about?? He only hesitated to kill her but HE won that fight! He didn’t win against the maulers or reanimen, he had to be saved…even though he won, he actually didnt. He got saved. The first big fight he actually did win, is against a viltrumite…that comparison alone makes them look way weaker

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          Well it’s not even about beating the maulers, it’s about how much damage the maulers did to him compared to the viltrumites…viltrumites should’ve done significantly more damage regardless of whether he was holding back or not in ANY of the fight, the power difference should be way way way above that scale

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            That’s like saying the guardians of the globe nearly beating Nolan is making him look weak.

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              No I’m saying them nearly killing him and hospitalizing him, compared to viltrumites only giving him a cut on the head…makes THE VILTRUMITES look weak, omniman has already calculable feats and the fact the guardians could damage him as much as they did speaks to their strength, the viltrumites should’ve fucked him up even worse if the idea is that they’re so powerful they only need 1 to conquer planets, and no, the sneak attack doesn’t count because Nolan was already guards down

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    Nolan is one of the strongest viltrumites and Mark doesn’t want to kill, so he holds back.

    It’s really as simple as that.

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    Careful, friend. People on this subreddit can’t handle negative opinions

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      Idk why it’s considered negative opinion and not just criticism to be rebutted