• OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    One time this Taiwanese guy showed up to a board game group and when he found out I was sympathetic to China he told me:

    If you want to know more about the cultural and historical reason causing the seemingly crazy Chinese expanding ambitions. I highly recommend you read this book. It explains why Xi is being so aggressive these years and why it’s almost inevitable. It’s not the same logic most people in the world understand. Even most Chinese people aren’t aware it.

    And he linked me to “The China Order” by Fei-Ling Wang. I skimmed it, and it was complete drivel.

    The central thesis is that Europe developed a peaceful Westphalian model that led it to respect the sovereignty of states, throughout it’s history and into the present day (somehow ignoring the entire history of colonialism, the Cold War, etc), while China’s historical model was based around “tianxia” which basically means that it ruled the known world, which is why it will always be a big evil meanie out to conquer the world.

    Apparently this is a whole genre. Taking random snippets from China’s thousands of years of extremely varied history and picking out anything that supports the thesis that China is just inherently evil. There’s tons of works with similar theses written by white people, but I really can’t be assed to skim more than one, Fei-Ling immigrated from China to the US and has a doctorate, and he still writes this crap, in a university press, I can’t even imagine how bad the shit written by “China watchers” and pundits gets.

    What’s funny to me about this is that I once watched a film made during WWII produced by the US government, “Why We Fight: The Battle for China” which made the rather dubious claim that China had, “never once waged an aggressive war in it’s 4000 years of history.” Change your posture towards the US, and your entire history going back thousands of years gets rewritten.

    It’s just so lazy and childish to paint all of Chinese history with such a ridiculously large brush like that, it’s unbelievable.

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      8 hours ago

      If you want some real slop, then look at Hannah Arendts “What is Authority”. I just reread it and I had forgotten how much she sucks.
      Some bangers:

      • America was founded without violence
      • Colonisation was peaceful
      • Rome wasn’t a dictatorship
      • Authoritarianism is a pyramid, totalitarianism is an onion
      • Rome got authority from ancestors, we get it from law (stalin is the man in the onion)
      • Greece had no concept of authority
      • The slavery doesn’t count, that’s prepolitical because they had to have them
      • All countries are authoritarian (which is good actually)
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        7 hours ago

        The slavery doesn’t count, that’s prepolitical because they had to have them

        What in the ideology?

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      14 hours ago

      Fei-Ling immigrated from China to the US

      Classic Hanjian move. That’s why I check the “native” authors of books about a country beforehand.