I did some math to find out which AP items were the best if you wanted as much damage as possible. I only did the math for Void staff, Horizon Focus, Shadowflame and Rabadon (considering you already have Luden and sorcerer boots).
In the end Horizon Focus is always higher if you can proc its effect. So I’m wondering why every Lux player for example aren’t buying it second item.
It has been constantly bugging out ever since it was added. Maybe people just don’t want to bother with it idk. But I still see many Lux players pick it though. There aren’t just that many champs who can reliably use the required range to proc it in my opinion.
It was generally made for artillery mages and we have only 4 of them
The bug is fixed.
I often end up having more damage dealt with Horizon Focus than with Luden.
Tbh I just don’t know the range required to proc the effect is why I don’t use it.
I’m sorry, but can you share your math?
I will start with, the only good comparison is Shadowflame. Voidstaff and Rabadon have a different purpose, stats and cost.
That being said, HF deals more damage than SF only in 4 cases - against high HP and low MR targets, low HP and MR targets, and very high HP and very high MR targets, or if you have enough Penetration to deal true damage without the HF passive.
Since you are building Flat Penetration to burst squishies, you want the maximum damage on low to mid HP and low to mid MR targets, and while the margin is… kinda small, it is 100% in favour of SF. Furthermore, Flat pen works exponentially well the more Flat Pen you have. so having just more flat pen from SF is just better for the playstyle.
If you are against tanks, you may prefer HF, but tank-busting is not the job of a mage.
Because it procs on slows this season if you buy rylas before it you literally have the effect permantly active.
On dot champions that already like building rylas for the perma slow it’s very good synergy.
Next season however they are removing it being proced from slows so the rylas synergy is gone it will only work on 700+ range limiting it to artiely mages only which is fair since that item was meant for them and the rylas synergy is kinda dumb.
Lolalytics show horizon as 2nd item for Lux support, both lolalytics and ugg show it as 2nd(or 3rd if you do mejai) item on Lux mid. I’d say most luxes that know what they are doing, go horizon 2nd, it’s others that blind buy shadowflame second on her no matter what. Probably same people that go full enchanter on Seraphine support rather than ap carry with rylai and mandate.
That answer is very simple.
Because people are stupid.
And that’s true from Iron to Challenger.Horizon, Cosmic and Shadow are basicly the same Item in 3 different Flavors.
Yet Shadow has like 7x the pickrate.AKA, people don’t think, just buy. Just like with Skins. =P
Wait for the crossover when Aloy is brought into the game, she’ll use that item I imagine.
It depends on champions, but it is a good item.
Gragas for example tends to build it over Shadowflame, it’s usually on champions who can proc horizon consistenly with their kit, but I see it built more often these days.
because mages don’t really care about DPS too much
if they get caught on having their spell up in 5 seconds or 4 doesn’t matter when they die in 2
if they don’t get engaged on they can just back off and wait for another rotation
so they either do that or try to oneshot you,and shadowflane is slightly better at that
I think a lot of people dont run the numbers, but instead look at the general idea behind an item. Horizon has CDR while shadowflame has Pen. You’d assume off of that that Shadowflame damage > Horizon, but you’re right about it dealing more (as long as you can proc it). You can also proc it by slowing people which everyone and their mother can do so it should indeed have a higher pick rate than shadow flame. As a Shaco main, the reveal is almost more annoying than the actual damage. Champions like Shaco, Akali, Talon can’t get in safely for what feels an eternity just because Lux max range Eed you once right as dragon starts getting low.
-1 gold per minion
-10 gold per siege
can’t even scratch jaksho without void
has to buy sorcerer’s but mid champs can’t equip spells for survival
Has to equip teleport but no tenacity at all
Buying tread means 0 damage
Liandry’s cannot kill dealersSafeguard is easily broken
Everfrost is too weak and rooting got nerfed
Champs like Lee Sin will have a lot of tenacity and Treads
Only 0.2 second rooting
Seraph’s embrace the legendary garbage
Shadowflame, the only lucrative itemDeathcap is 3600g
??
Zhonya got nerfed too many times so it can’t even be second item
I can’t have both stop watch and Zhonya’s at the same time
Therefore I have to use stopwatch first
but Zhonya’s is 3000g and has little ap
Banshee’s is decent but this one is weak too
I haven’t seen Horizon for several months
If I have to buy Morello, I have to call gg
I haven’t seen horizon in several months
seraph embrace is hot garbage
If I have to buy morello then it’s gg
Cosmic drive, it’s used to be the hope of mages
But after it got nerfed last year, good byeRylai’s is super trash
Riot keeps buffing RoA because it’s super garbage
Mid champs can’t buy Night harvester
Rocketbelt is 3200g… Bye
Lame mages can’t buy Lich Baneeven champs who fis well with Lich Bane don’t buy it
Nashor’s is exclusive for Katarina
This is ridiculous, too ridiculous
Wait this is just wrong though, unless you also do true/physical dmg shadowflame does more dmg until enemies have 120 MR
The benefit of building horizon is the 15 haste