• XenGi@lemmy.chaos.berlin
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    Your favorite torrent provider has all the seasons of the show and even the special one that only aired in Japan!

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      Why go with a server instead of streaming, these days? I’m genuinely curious.

      Edit: guys, I’m asking a question. Why the downvotes? Also, I’m not talking about PAID streaming.

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        Because what I want to watch is spread across 17 different streaming services. Of course you can buy digitally… But then there’s no guarantee they won’t take that back out of your account. Or edit it later on when they decide something is offensive like happened when I bought the office on Vudu.

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        Edit: guys, I’m asking a question. Why the downvotes? Also, I’m not talking about PAID streaming.

        How you dare to go against Jellyfin in Lemmy, not even Plex stands a chance /s

        To answer your question, you actually can use both, as I do.

        Plex for more “obscure” content and to enrich my own TV m3u playlist with DizqueTV and Stremio and Kodi with Real Debrid for everything else, if I have a legal streaming service is because it is being borrowed to me lol, I’m more than served with my means.

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        Genuinely answering:

        A decade ago, there was like, Netflix and Hulu. Netflix you paid $8 a month and you got stuff from Paramount, Starz!, most television networks, Disney, the various permutations of Fox. You could watch Friends, Penn & Teller’s Bullshit!, Star Trek TNG, and Mythbusters for the same $8/month in one app in one interface.

        Now, nearly every network or channel wants their own bespoke app on your device, they EACH cost more than $8 a month, and now you have to remember who makes what content. And still stuff randomly disappears. Or, if there’s a “purchase” system like on Amazon where you pay a price per movie/episode/whatever, some contract falling through could mean they get to unilaterally decide how long “forever” is.

        I ripped my DVD collection to my NAS and I use Kodi on a Raspberry Pi attached to my (non-smart) television. I don’t pay a continuous fee (or nine), I don’t scroll endlessly through shit I’m not interested in, stuff doesn’t randomly disappear, and it’s not going to decide to start playing ads even through I paid for this.

        As for torrenting? Don’t need the heat. I can buy used DVDs or blu-rays from eBay or my local pawn shop for pennies apiece and have all the content I actually want, legally and conveniently. My ISP doesn’t get mad, and everything continues to work.

        Plus my NAS does a few other things not related to media consumption, for example it’s attached to my UPS and it will send signals to several devices including the UPS and itself to shut down when it’s too low on battery. It’s kind of nice to have that kind of thing.

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        It works a hell of a lot more reliably than things like fmovies… Streamio can be a little better with real-debrid but then you’re still paying…

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        I was watching a show and they dropped the rights in my country (no one picked it up), the only option was to steal it via a torrent or steal via VPN…then they blocked VPNs

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        An actual answer to your real question:

        There’s basically four options when you want to watch a TV show without paying money for it. You can borrow someone’s password to a legal streaming service, you can use an illegal streaming service, you can torrent the show and watch it locally on your machine, or you can torrent the show, put it on a private server, and access it from anywhere.

        The first two options are the easiest and legally safest, but you don’t have total control over what you get. The services might not have every episode, they might have awful compression, they might take the show away while you’re watching it, etc.

        The latter two options are legally less safe, but you have more control over what you get. If you only watch the shows you download locally (either on the computer it was downloaded to or from a flash drive), there’s no reason to set up a server at all. If you want to be able to access your shows remotely, setting up a server offers the benefits of streaming legally (watch it anywhere, let your friends watch it anywhere), with the benefits of illegally downloading (you decide what’s available to watch, it’s in whatever quality you want, no one can take it away from you, etc.)

        For most people, just streaming is the best option. Most people don’t actually care about quality that much–have you ever met someone who doesn’t skip ads? Who can watch a youtube video with the mouse on screen? Who doesn’t mind the blighted notch taking away part of their phone’s screen? That’s most people. Not to say streaming is that bad for those of us who care about quality, just saying that if animeflix or watchcartoononline offer good enough quality for me, they offer good enough quality for 95% of the pirate population

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        In my case I use a Emby server and not “free” streaming options because I can choice the quality, subtitles and on which device I want to watch. Or download it on my phone for offline watching.

        All under my control without any ads.

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        basically, data hoarder. i’m scared of not being able to watch a certain show in the future, even on illegal sites. so i take control of the files myself at very little cost. i had an old computer laying around, and a 4TB HDD is like 60€

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      my jellyfin server has all of the seasons

      Jesus, all the seasons? You must data hoard hard.

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    A streaming service creates a new show

    Creates a second season

    Ditches the show after getting everyone hooked

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    Recently been trying to introduce my partner to Doctor Who while he’s staying in Australia. All the episodes used to be up on BritBox because it’s a British show, but they dropped it earlier this year. Now the options are:

    Binge (season 4+)

    Amazon Prime (season 5+)

    Stan (all new seasons, but also the only streaming service I don’t have access to)

    Disney+ (only 3 movie-length specials)

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    Bonus points: The service has the entire run of a show, but then they remove the whole series when you’re only 3 episodes away from the end.

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    Of course theyll pull the first season, how else would the network drive people to go sign up for their separate shitty streaming site that barely works for an additional $9/mo?

    Meanwhile your friendly neighborhood pirate has the first, second, third AND fourth seasons, as well as all the extras and the Christmas special, always available all the time…

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    “A streaming service only has the second season of a show”

    The “rival” streaming service that has the first season of the show is owned by the same corporation so it can double-dip viewers on subscription fees.

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    streaming service has a random selection of episodes from a show

    Way back when Mythbusters was on Netflix, they’d have just a random smattering of episodes and not the complete series. Suxx0red.

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      reminds me of hulu in the early days. What’s the point, why would I ever trust your service if you’re just going to haphazardly throw episodes up there?

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        I remember when Hulu first came out and everyone kept telling me it was free. Then I’d try to watch something on it and it was only 15-30 second clips. Then I found out my friends were just stupid and didn’t realize they’re parents were paying for it

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          There was definitely a lot of free, full feature content on Hulu at the beginning though. I’m pretty sure it’s the only reason anyone ever signed up. Streaming ads during the Netflix golden era was an unfathomable regression back to cable, but we accepted it at that price.

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      I had to stop a movie at night then when I came back the next day to finish it, it became only available for renting :/

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    I love how everyone here are just saying to pirate. I wonder if someone made one streaming platform to rule them all. I’m talking no ads, no missing parts, no extra fees, no shitty quality streams. Would people still pirate, as they just bearly reached what piracy offers, or would ppl just be happy that they can pay and then actually watch shows?

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      Steam made buying games and making them run on Linux so easy I no longer pirate games. So yes I probably would

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        yeap steam is the best example of a service i’d very happily pay - I’ve paid LOTS to them and just last month, I downloaded “have a nice death” for yuzu, played 30", loved it and insta bought it on steam. It was 25 euros but having my saves forever and being able to single click install & play is something that I value more.

        you don’t get to get my money AND fuck me, pick one (netflix, youtube, etc.)

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        But Steam doesn’t have everything - because there are holdout publishers that feel they can profit more with their own version.

        Oh, look, that’s exactly what happens with streaming, and yet people still use it as an excuse.

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          You are not wrong, but in case of videogames, it’s not that annoying to have another free app installed. In contrast to streaming where you pay another full price monthly.

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            My question, though: Is the annoyance in the many price tags, or the total price?

            Because I imagine if Netflix or NetflixLike had gone their (and the streaming community’s) wish of making every show ever available on one universal app, then I doubt they’d still charge $10 a month for it. They’d have cornered the market for all entertainment; $30 would be an absolute minimum for the lowest ad supported tier.

            Am I unique in feeling I won’t find every single show interesting, and I’m only going to subscribe to the services I know I might reasonably watch in a month? I’m trying to understand what solution people wanted, even if that’s “Everything, everywhere, all the time, for $10 a month”.

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      Netflix used to be that and everyone bought the hell out of it. Then it enshittened and all the shows moved to proprietary platforms and now you need 19 subscriptions to get a selection of shows you care about. No thanks.

      There are powerful lessons to be learned from the successes of Steam and Spotify if only the relevant people look and listen.

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        tbf, they’d prefer to be that as you described. What happened was many publishers decided they’d make their own deal, and pulled their contracts. Still the same disappointing situation thanks to greed, but it wasn’t really Netflix’s fault.

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      There will always be pirates, for some the act itself is a kind of hobby and part of their identity, but I think we can see in the reaction to some current and past, pre-inshitification, services thatt here is a legitimate point where many, if not a majority, would be happy to pay for a worthy service to support the media they enjoy and avoid some of the acquisition and self hosting hassle of pirating.

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      For games, I still pirate them for a couple of reasons, one of them being monetary. However, if the game is good, I buy the game afterwards to support the developers, and if it’s bad, they won’t see a dime from me. I might be a pirate, but I have honor.

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      i would gladly pay for that. the only reason i’m not streaming is the inconsistency of it all. and to watch all of the stuff i want to watch, that would be 60€+ a month. plus the godawful UI. but i’m not entitled to complain, i use jellyfin.

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      When there was basically only Netflix I paid for it and almost completely stopped pirating. Now I have acces to Netflix, Disney, prime(Disney and prime by password sharing) and I again started pirating years ago.

      I for sure pay €20 for one service with almost everything, no ads and decent quality. Then I again stop pirating

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    This was the case when I checked out crunchyroll years ago, there were so many shows that didn’t have season 1 in my country and well the selection was abysmal to begin with.

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        Oh yea, streaming services have never had much of a selection in my country so the high seas are the only option and Plex combined with sickchill and couchpotato are a better user experience too.

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    Or Netflix: we have repackaged 2 seasons as one with half of season 2 jammed in there to make it feel like it died unfinished.