O.o Do you understand what Cloudflare actually does?
Provides a single point of failure for a large portion of the internet that nobody else has any control over?
Using cloudflare is more reliable than using your own stuff which is still an option that nobody chooses anymore because it’s better to choose cloudflare or something similar.
I’m going to go ahead and assume you don’t work with internet security in any way, have no experience in web development, and have never attempted to provide web application services to more people than you can count on your fingers, but if you had, cloudflare is mana from heaven.
While that can indeed be considered an issue, the idea that this somehow makes the internet objectively worse is debatable.
there is no debate i am always correct :)
That is an objectively untrue statement.
you are an objectively untrue statement
What?? I thought cloudflare is good. Free Ddos protection, etc.
Single point of failure for the whole internet.
Only because no one does what they do as well as they do it.
If they had competition, that wouldn’t be the case. Sadly, there are very few other good guys out there…
What about akamai? Other CDNs and the like.
There exists competition, they’ve just been doing it consistently well at a large scale for awhile.
They’ve done nothing to prevent competition, because they’re legit AF. The competition just hasn’t put a dent in their market share because they’re excellent at what they do.
I wouldn’t call clourflare a single point.
Their management control plane absolutely is a single point of failure.
If cloudflare goes down you can just update DNS to not use it …
Well the admin of a site could opt out of using cloudflare for the time being, a user could do literally nothing. Errors in Cloudflare can easily take down their servers and therefore the CDN and access to like 20% of websites. And Bugs in Cloudflare can even leak user data.
So cloudflare can grant DDOS Protection, CDNs and other exploiting protection, but can take down large parts of everything, temporarily or permanently.
“So you solved the catcha, ok, we don’t care anyway.”
“Solve 5 more because you’re using a vpn.”
I am baffled seeing so much cloudflare fanboys here…
Cloudflare is everywhere, it sees everything, it holds everything, it has private keys for tons and tons of websites, it’s subject to the absence of any privacy law in the US, but they are “nice”. Wow.
Google also was nice. It used to give you good results. Twitter also was nice.
203 upvotes, 202 downvotes. The most controversial lemmy post I’ve ever seen
I feel like I’m making history. A real end user vs tech people conundrum.
Literally trying to figure out if Cloudflare or tailscale would be the best way to go. The memes have spoken
Don’t use memes to make decisions I’m just mad I can’t use the discord app on my desktop, can’t download manga from nhentai without jumping through hoops anymore, and have to solve 5 captchas in a row when I use a vpn which is all the time.
I really think that on the list of worst single points of failure, DNS is not one of them. Given how easy it is to actually switch. And given that cloudflare outages are not nearly as common, The times they do happen usually are only for half an hour or so.
Throwback to when 1.1.1.1 dropped and we all loved couldflare
Not all of us.
Cuckflare: host loves it, everyone else hates it
Honestly, I don’t know how any end user who doesn’t understand IT and wasn’t around before services like Cloudflare were available can say this. They objectively don’t have the information or experience to make the claim.
I’ve been using the intermet since 2003 and have seen no difference except when cloudfare breaks.
I’ve been using the intermet since 2003
Then you should remember this: https://youtu.be/48rz8udZBmQ?si=81BQVmYGYRhpPCsw
