I love the original Hotline Miami but I’m not a big fan of the boss fights like the ones in Neighbors (Biker) and Deadline (Van Driver). I find it kind of slows down the game and limits the strategies you can take.
Another example would be Fallout 3. I find the tutorial section in Vault 101 can feel a bit long after a fifth run but maybe that’s because I was spoiled by Fallout New Vegas’ ability to run off in your own direction immediately after leaving Doc Mitchell’s house.
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One of the most popular mods for Dragon Age: Origins is a mod that lets you skip the fade section of the game. So that’s a pretty good indication of how people feel about it.
Yeah the fade is cool in theory but it’s poorly implemented there imo.
In Pathfinder wrath of the righteous, alushynirra is very similar to the fade and it is a much better - albeit buggy as fuck - implementation.
Mass Effect 3.
Those damn dream sequences.
Half-life’s Xen levels are particularly infamous for this sort of thing. There’s a reason the Black Mesa remake overhauled it.
And they are still bad, IMO.
I played Xen using cheats, but I plan to replay it and see if I can get through it without a complete loss of all ammo 🤣
I’ve seen that damn cart ride in Skyrim so many times that Ralof and Hadvar are basically family. I consider the alternative start mod an absolute requirement now.
I love Thief and Thief 2 but there are a few levels in there (Thieve’s Guild, Trace the Courier) that are pretty dull and uninteresting to replay. They’re the songs you’re still tempted to skip on otherwise perfect albums.
I’m nostalgic for that cart ride, but I still use the alternate start mod because the cart ride is one of the buggiest parts of the game, and letting my mods load prior to viewing the cart ride avoids a lot of problems
The start of Skyrim is sooooooo long and so boring. I didn’t even enjoy it the first time… by the time I got out o the caves I was burnt out and gave up on the game for like 12 years. I got into it recently, but I almost always bounced off of it because I didn’t enjoy the opening at all. Bethesda is probably the absolute worst company at game openings. Even Privateer’s Hold in Daggerfall is kind of notorious for grinding players into a bored paste. Possibly the only game that gives Bethesda a run for their money is the awful temple section in Fallout 2, but I assume that’s why they bought the franchise lol.
I don’t replay games often, but I did several playthroughs of Elden Ring when it came out. It’s a 10/10 game and nothing beats playing it for the first time blind.
However, the mountaintop of the giants is fairly lacking and the boss rush at the end leading up to Radagon and the Elden Beast feels rushed. I also prefer the Godfrey fight over the final boss.
True, the mountaintop could have been a bit more Inspired for a zone locked behind a lot of progress. Even more underwhelming if you compare to Farum Azula.
True Godfrey was one of my favorite boss both times just because i love the character and ambiance. I remember making a build of a viking with two axes and listening to brothers of metal.
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The walk out into Liurnia from Godrick’s castle and the elevator down into Nokstella are such beautiful moments, perfectly done, without even a cutscene. The closest I’ve seen in another game is seeing Touissant for the first time in Witcher 3. It’s a land of fairytales.
I deleted it because I didn’t quite capture what I wanted to say.
But you see what I’m saying. I’ve never felt so small, but so enthralled by the environment
The unskippable toturial. Every game that has one.
toturial
Love the typo. It seems a merge between “tutorial” and “torture”, which in many cases is.
I understand why they do it, though. Because every time there is something skippable, people will skip it and then go and complain about being confused or saying the game didn’t explain something well enough. A good thing that should be more common is things shouldn’t be skippable the first time you play a game and then skippable after that.
Many wish for less handholding in games, then completely miss major features or story beats because they skipped whatever they needed to get that info and go and pester the devs or others about it.
The secret: at the end of the game leave a key combo (like a cheat code) that skips the tutorial. Anyone familiar with the game could just find it online any time they want to replay it, but new players wouldn’t know it exists.
Do you count the prologue level in Mega Man X as a tutorial? Because whenever I go back to beat that game, I have no problem playing that level again. It takes like 3 minutes and it gets your jumping and shooting fingers all warmed up.
Portal 2. I love the game. But when it goes all the way down and you have to fight your way through that underground rubble…
I always get excited when I hear Cave’s lemon speech. Mostly because it’s a good speech, but also because it means the end of the underground section
I actually like the underground, but it does have a couple of annoyingly obtuse puzzles.
In Marvel’s Spider-man, those damn Mary Jane sequences. Apart from that I love that game, still waiting for a discount to buy Spider-man 2.
There are Mary Jane sequences in Spiderman 2 as well. More, it felt like. I also hate them. In fact, Sunday night was the first time I played in three weeks because I got to an annoying Mary Jane sequence that I just didn’t want to play at all
Edit: also, I found out after beating it, there’s no New Game+ yet. Just FYI if you’re into that sort of thing. I read “first part of 2024” for that
Im a pokemon “gen unner” kinda gal, so take what I say with a grain of salt, I like collecting weird creatures exploring all the funky stuff I can find but…
I hate grinding and actually fighting random battles.
The gyms and elite 4 are cool tho
I’ve been saying for a while now that we’re just beyond the world of grindy, random encounters. The early games weren’t fun because of the dozens of zubats we had to deal with. They weren’t even “harder” for these reasons, despite the absurd opinions you’ll stumble across online. Remembering to stock up on repels isn’t really a skill check. Completing the set challenges that you are aware of and planning around then is fun. Having to smash “A” through random encounters and opening the menu to hit a Fresh Water every once in a while is not.
Yeah seriously but when you bring it up, may arceus have mercy on your soul
Imo that part was much worse in gen 1. When they started adding multi exp and all that stuff it made grinding much less annoying
I havent seen a much better feeling for the grind up until sun and moon even, random battles where as annoying as ever
Tbh I didn’t really play any games after 3rd gen until the 2nd gen remakes on the DS. But yeah random encounters are annoying in every game they’re a part of
GTA: San Andreas, OG Loc mission. I’m much better at it after all these years, but I still run into at least 5 walls and fall off my bike every time. It’s way harder than the train mission.
Terraria. I love Terraria but the start is a chore to get through with how slow everything is. It’s still not enough to stop me of course, the game is just too much fun
There was a time when the beginning was all we had, and we loved it damnit!
How I wish I could play it for the first time again, beating the wall of flesh for the first time and discovering that the entire game just shifted to whole new level was amazing. Then, after beating moon lord a couple of times, discovering modded Terraria. There are no words to describe the joy this game has brought me
All for a game I picked up on sale for like $2 10 years ago
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Every mandatory stealth section in a non-stealth game. Spider-Man, several Zelda games, Metroid Dread, Jedi Knight II.
Good thing I was never good enough at Jedi Outcast to get to that part taps head
I loved the stealth sections in ocarina of time and wind waker
Interestingly, i used to hate the stealth section in wind waker as a kid, and now it feels like no big deal. I attribute this to being older and now sort of decent at games.
I call Nier:Automata “the best game I will never play again” and it’s because of 9S’ combat.
What were they thinking? No one cares about 9S anyway! But he’s your playable for well more than what should only have been his one-third the game, and his combat is AWFUL! If I wanted to play Asteroids I’d play Asteroids. You have two other playable characters, both of which chop up robots with giant swords! THAT’S what people are here for, know your audience!
For me all of nier automata’s gameplay was terrible, and the story too but that is something I know not many people will agree with me on
I could not even figure how to get to the second playthru. But I am probably just dumb. But it definitely didn’t land for me. Anime was great though.
You just load your save iirc. The game is not really finished until the 5th ending
Ghost of Tsushima is one of my comfort games, but I hate replaying the end of act 2 because of the emotional toll.
In Devil May Cry 3, the Nevan boss fight and backtracking through the rearranged tower after it’s activated are just tedious.
Another user said the Fade section of Dragon Age: Origins, but I’ll go with the Deep Roads. Everything you learn in that section is fascinating, but man, I just want to see the sky again and you’re down there for a while.
Ohh yeah going back through the tower again in DMC3 is annoying. It was already kinda hard to navigate before the scramble.
KOTOR 1. Taris is cool but let’s be honest. I play that game because I like playing a Jedi. I’ve also played it from start to finish at least 20 times.
I haven’t got to your numbers, but I’ve enjoyed playing it quite a few times.
I got a perverse pleasure in going Dark Side and perverting Bastila…
I’m such a carebear. I’ve never played a darkside character because I love the supporting characters too much 😅
