• intelshill@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    South Africa’s case is rock solid. If the ICJ rules against it, it’ll be on a technicality.

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    10 months ago

    Anyone want to bet that the map of countries supporting South Africa will look surprisingly similar to the map of countries who recognize Palestine, which coincidentally happens to look surprisingly similar to the map of countries who do not condemn China for Xinjiang?

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      10 months ago

      I guess people killed under bombs in the last few months deserved it then? Or what’s your point?

      USSR sometimes took pretty valid positions too.

      The only thing worse than a Cold War mindset is an uncritical Cold War mindset, where we just accept that one side was making trouble and the other side was galactic good. Pinochet doesn’t seem that for me, for example.

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        It is valid to call out motivation and engage in discussion around it. It doesn’t invalidate the case being brought but too often people and the media like to frame the situation in terms of morality.

        South Africa and the other countries that support the case are likely not (only?) taking a moral stance.

        I, like OP and others, see these articles and wonder why this genocide but not that one. I think that’s the difference between a human view and a political one.

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        It’s highly unlikely that one side happens to be entirely on the side of genocide in one issue and entirely on the side of the victims in another issue. Either the Palestinian genocide or the Uyghur genocide are happening, but not both.

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          10 months ago

          Yes, I can’t see any reason why countries would acknowledge or ignore genocides depending on their strategic interests /s

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          It’s highly unlikely that one side happens to be entirely on the side of genocide in one issue and entirely on the side of the victims in another issue.

          Could you please provide some actual arguments? Because this is horse shit.

          Of course it’s likely and it often happens.

          Actually IRL it’s more often that not like this. Israel supporting Azerbaijan against Armenians, for example.

          Either the Palestinian genocide or the Uyghur genocide are happening, but not both.

          Oh, you are simply a troll.

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      Are you seriously still bringing up Xinjiang. The so called “genocide” has been debunked multiple times. The case in the UN has been dropped.

      No muslim majority country condemns China because there is nothing to condemn as genocide.

      Lets note that no Chinese government official has ever considered the policies enacted in xinjiang as a “fight between the childrens of light and dark”

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      10 months ago

      Which coincidently the map of countries who support the russian invasion to Ukraine. Or at least do not condemn it