Been awhile since I’ve seen the episodes so don’t know if they covered it.

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    9 months ago

    Why could they not do in hundreds of years what the EMH did in a few days? 🤷🏻‍♂️

    Why could they have not simply taken Voyager’s offer for a cure and instead attacked them?

    The concept was cool; their execution has got to be one of the weakest of the entire franchise.

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      Something I would have liked to have seen is Vidiians being assimilated by choice on the basis that being part of the Collective had to be better than suffering from the Phage. Instead of them just being enemies, they should have really leaned into how horrible it would be to live with that plague hanging over their heads. It’s also implied in an episode or two that there are uninfected populations somewhere, probably under quarantine, which would have been interesting to explore.

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      I’d still rate the warp 10+ as the worst of all star Trek. Voyager was cool but there’s so many plot holes everywhere.

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      The worst was the in-universe explanation for why all of the aliens are shaped like humans. That was just cartoonishly bad. I mean, I get it. There’s very few ways of casting actors that can play a sentient shade of blue.

      But just leave it. You don’t have to explain it. We all know. You especially don’t have to explain it in a way that demonstrates no one involved had ever taken Bio 101.

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        Yeah, Stargate did it better, because kidnapped humans inhabiting the galaxy makes more sense. Solves the “everyone looks human” problem without the “we have proof of evolution here” problem.

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      Why could they not do in hundreds of years what the EMH did in a few days? 🤷🏻‍♂️

      …And the combined total of thousand of years of scientific advances of myriad species. The Federation’s strength is in it’s diversity. No doubt the Vidiians made enemies of more than one species that were able to help them, too.

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    You’d think they’d be looking for non-organic options. Go full cybernetic, shed their mortal, diseased bodies entirely.

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    perhaps they already did this until they all went extinct.

    remember, the Vidiians had been combating the Phage for millennia.

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      You could trade for new ones from other worlds. I think other worlds wold be happy to grow some pigs for them, which they can then set up their own breeding program.

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        in thousands of years, I’m sure they could have tried a lot of things.

        a lot of stuff in that show made no sense. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        like instead of murdering Tuvix, why didn’t they make a Riker-style duplicate first so they could keep a Tuvix copy and split the other back into Tuvok and Neelix?

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            hey, don’t get me started on the whole, “why didn’t Tuvok just beam over those tricobalt devices to the Caretaker’s array with timers on them to go off a millisecond after using it to send the Voyager back home? So what if we didn’t get a show? at least we would have gotten a satisfying ending, which we certainly never fucking got. Oh, you just dump the ship in the AQ, and what, THE END??‽!!! THAT’S IT??‽!!! THANK YOU AND GOODBYE FOREVER??‽!!

            WE HAD TO WAIT THIRTY FUCKING YEARS TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BORG!!!

            suck my ass, Brannon Braga

            edit: and while I’m at it, on behalf of every woman and LGBTQ+ person in (and fan of) Trek since 1987, suck my ass Rick Berman

            edit 2: thank you Terry Matalis, btw, for TNG S08 and cleaning up the mess that was the VOY finale’s loose ends.

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              That one I felt like I understood: the stakes were so high that they couldn’t take a 1/1000000 chance of it failing. Every second they stayed there monitoring it meant that they might be able to affect the outcome. Something something “they cared” something, willing to bet their futures for the next decade or so and even lives to prevent the bad. But ofc at the end of the day they are stories, meant to tear-jerk at our emotions, not teach us strategic tips for our own day-to-day living:-).

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    Real answer: b/c then it would not have been as horrifying, and thus you would not be talking about it here, all these years later:-).

    In-universe answer: various mysterious sciency-whiency BS mumbo jumbo thoughts that are fun to conjecture about:-P.