• Pennomi@lemmy.world
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    I think the point was that there were also paid actors intentionally stirring up drama around him.

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      Like, how much drama can they pull around a baby?

      Especially if it is 24/7 for multiple years.

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        Have you ever raised a baby? They’re 90% drama, 10% sleep. Guaranteed the early days of the Truman Show were flooded with parents watching the actor mom struggle to deal with the constant crying. Crying because hungry, refusing to eat because they’re too busy crying, crying because they’re tired, but too busy crying to sleep. I bet tons of parents were watching it, commiserating, or judging, or arguing about how she should be doing this instead of that. The drama writes itself.

        Not to mention the moments when they’re being extremely cute. When they roll over in bed and stare wide eyed at a stuffed toy, then flail at it and coo little baby noises at it. Maybe bite on it and shake it around like a little puppy. People love that shit. If a live stream of a fixed camera in a car cafe can get millions of views, a live stream of a baby doing baby things can easily get lots of viewers.

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        Just lock a bunch of writers into a room and don’t let them out until that baby is in peril.

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        In the early years he would have been barely a prop. Things happen around him but not to him.

        You watched Full House season 1, right?

        Compare Canonical. Shuttleworth has apparently lost bags of money on his dream, for like decades by now, and apparently only last year or so showed a real profit, but kept on going. Same deal.

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        Most viewers of the Truman Show would probably just watch clip shows or some influencer explaining what happened that day. I know some people listen to 4 hours of Rogan, but many just hear about him from people reporting on his show.

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    The first few seasons of Big Brother UK had nighttime episodes where you could watch the contestants sleeping. They were very popular, and even had catch up shows so you could see what you’d missed 🤷🏻‍♂️

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      Same here in Germany, but they weren’t sleeping. People were watching because of all the trash whispering and waiting for the first touchy situations inter the covers.

      They even had a time where one channel was broadcasting live nighttime. I think that stopped after a few seasons.

      Those first seasons were pure trash, but so naive, compared to what it mutated to over the years.

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          In Lithuanian one (they called it the Aquarium, but the idea was the same) two people fucked under the sheets and they broadcasted that on TV, causing massive uproar because apparently the audience wasn’t really ready for that.

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            If Lithuania want to keep their position as the heirs to Rome then they need to get freaky how the romans did.

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              TIL about Lithuania just straight up lying about their claim as heirs to Rome, and ya know what?

              I respect it. It’s honestly the most Roman thing possible, just fucking lying to fuck with people.

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                Honestly, are you even a European nation of you don’t claim to be the heir of the Roman Empire?

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                To be honest it was probably an attempt to appear as a legitimate European country instead of a gang of savages that the Teutons were trying to paint them as.

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            In Australia there was a huge uproar during the early seasons because a guy held a woman down while another guy slapped her face with his dick on the livestream they were running. Everyone in Australia learnt the term “turkey slap” that year whether they liked it or not.

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          Yeah the format was invented by two Dutch guys. Made them very rich when they licensed the format world wide. And years later one of them created The Voice.

          Also this guy, John de Mol, made Fear Factor. So you can probably blame him for keeping Joe Rogan relevant when he was a washed up actor/comedian

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          It went on for 13 seasons until 2013 and i just found out that season 14 has been running since March 2024, gasp!

          In between there have been things like Promi Big Brother, the celebrity version.

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    They jazzed it up with fake scenarios specially to boost ratings. Haven’t you seen the movie? That was more of the point than just the fact he was being filmed. His life was all Hollywood bullshit. His own father was “killed off” when he was a kid, but the man didn’t actually die.

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    Keep in mind his birth was live. They said by random chance in the film, but I suspect they induced labor and this was something like a post-Superbowl event that was hyped up.

    So even if the show got boring, everyone would have been aware. So maybe you are just flipping through the channels (as was the style at the time), if the baby shows up you might watch for a few minutes just to see what it’s up to.

    Remember Reddit had that hotdog in gelatin? I’d want to check in on that every few months.

    The first few years were probably inexpensive and eventually things would get interesting.

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    Marketing, and this movie came out during the Reality TV era, it was the peak commentary of where we were heading as a society if we stayed on the course we did. Wanting to know everything about someone’s life, start to finish.

    (I’m saying that from both the POV of us watching it as well as the people watching from within the movie)

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      I know that reality TV sort of got its start in the '90s with The Real World, but I don’t think the reality TV era really started until the 2000s. The Truman Show came out in 1998, and I think The Real World (starting in 1992) and Survivor (starting in 1997) are the only ones to predate it.

      I think The Truman Show was more a critique of the increasing obsession with celebrity and tabloid news in general than it was of reality TV. In particular, the media frenzy that was the OJ Simpson trial.

      However, when I started this comment, I didn’t realize how early The Real World was, so maybes the Reality TV Era did start earlier than I thought. I always associate it more with the writers strike in 2007-2008.

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    hypothetically, there was also the literal world building around the kid. the enormous ‘set’ would have taken years to build. i can imagine a chunk of early broadcasting demonstrating the build and subsequent soap drama of all the actors to fill that void.

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    Being lightly scripted, drama would be easy to add:

    Oh no, the mom put the baby on the counter near the stove with boiling water!

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    I feel like this comment is ignoring a whole bunch of cat TikTok. Plus a whole bunch of grocery haul Youtube, for good measure.

    I mean, canonically they aired a live birth and then just had a 24/7 babycam. I’d watch.

    What I don’t get is how they got through the 5-15 period, because there are plenty of real world parents that tune out for that already.

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    I went to work for a cable company in 2007. This old timer there told me about his cable TV dog turd theory. His theory said that you could put a camera on a dog turd in your yard and leave it on for a month. When you switched it off there would be hundreds of calls about why this channel was off. There would complaint after complaint that there was a fly that was about to land on the dog turd and they missed it.

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    The first couple of years were exclusive to OnlyFans and made huge sums of money from breast feeding fetishists. This financed them well into the toddler years.

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    Have you (rhetorical you) seen the ridiculously boring and shallow shit that people watch nearly 24/7 now, though? Video platforms are filled with useless nonsense and people eat it up.

    There are people who will have a show playing in the background every hour of the day, showing the “news” or soap operas or reality shows or game shows or movie reruns or etc etc, just soaking it up subconsciously forever until they die.

    Go to any doctors office or bar or restaurant (in the US, anyway, maybe it’s different elsewhere) and there’s a high chance they’ll also be playing some nonsense drivel on a dozen TVs strategically positioned so you can’t sit anywhere in the place without being subjected to a view of one.

    Society loves giving attention to the most inane shit available, even if just for background noise.

    The idea of there being an audience for the early years of the Truman Show doesn’t seem at all like an unfathomable stretch to me.

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      Reaction videos are a popular format right now. People watch other people watch dumb TV. The Truman Show seems damned near brilliant compared to that.

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        I really hate that. I hate the idea that society has given up on making good TV. A good TV show is like a crack rock. It’s all promethazine and 7Up now

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            We agree on that score. That’s the tricky thing about shows that are genuinely that good, you finish them fast. I actually don’t mind when they release them once per week. Delicious in Dungeon looms larger in my memory than Blue Eyes Samurai, even though I liked BES a bit more.

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              I wasn’t interested and walked away half way through the first episode, but my wife kept watching. That got me to give it another try. It changes dramatically after the first episode. That’s the only episode where they’re kids. The show spans decades, and time jumps quickly.